Supernatural: Jared Padalecki Talks Season 8 Sam and Misha Collins Teases Castiel’s Future

Clarissa September 28, 2012 237

Supernatural - Jared PadaleckiOur recent visit to the Supernatural* set consisted of a morning interview with Jensen Ackles (read it here) and some night interviews with stars Jared Padalecki and Misha Collins, who, like Jensen, teased what’s in store for their characters.

Jared took the time to explain Sam’s state of mind at the beginning of the season to us.  While Dean has been fighting his way through Purgatory, we know that Sam has gotten out of the hunting game entirely and found himself a girlfriend named Amelia.  What’s their relationship like?  “Pretty steamy.  We read 50 Shades of Grey to each other,” Jared joked.  “I’m just teasing.  I haven’t even read it.  But I do know the reference.  We see Sam and Amelia kind of built this relationship.  They’re both misfits, they’ve both gone through loss.  They’re both…not outcasts so much, but they’ve been brought together by a bizarre set of extenuating circumstances and they find each other’s arms and each other’s minds and say ‘you know, this is good, what we’ve got, why [look] a gift horse in the mouth?  Let’s go with it’.  We see glimpses of it.  At first, maybe I’ve become a fangirl of the show and I was kind of like “A GIRL?  FOR SAM?  WHAT’S HE DOING?!”.  But as I learned about the relationship I was so happy to explore that role and that character.  And Sam, from the get, has been hoping to reinvent himself as the person that he always thought he was, which is kind of backward speak, but he was the one in the pilot who wanted to stay in college.  He’s always kind of fought for the normal life and always kind of fought for the ‘relationship’.”

Sam and Amelia’s relationship will, however, play out in the past when the Winchester brothers are reunited in the season premiere, so don’t expect Sam to be ducking out of a hunt to be going to visit Amelia: “The relationship between Sam and Amelia, which I really enjoy, is done in retrospect.  It’s done mostly in flashbacks.  We will get into a real time relationship, but I’ve kind of been, not petitioning in a literal sense of the word, but vocal about ‘guys, I love when shows will go back and show what’s happened’ and I’ve loved when Supernatural’s done it, like “I Know What You Did Last Summer” and episodes that have gone back in time and told a cool story that you can’t tell him the present tense as well as you can tell in reflection.   And we see what Dean did in flashbacks.  They’re very opposite sides of the coin where one is happy and content and living a ‘Supernatural Winchester normal life’ and the other is in Purgatory fighting for his life.”

We know, of course, that Sam does jump back into the hunting life with Dean, but is he reluctant to do so?  Jared said that Sam’s going to do it, even if he isn’t particularly happy about returning to his former life: “I think Sam in this season is different from Sam in other seasons where Dean was in Hell, or Sam was in Hell.  Usually when they’ve been split up there’s been sort of the impetus of ‘my brother’s in trouble, I’ve got to save him, [or] he’s got to save me’.  But here Sam’s like ‘I was in a room, Roman vanished, Castiel vanished, Kevin Tran is gone.  I have no Bobby, I have no Misha, I have nothing.  I’m going to take off the hunter garb and just live a normal life because I have nothing tying me back.  There’s absolutely nothing holding him back from a normal life.  So when it all comes crashing back down it’s like a brutal reminder, yet again, of who he has been and possibly mean to be.  He isn’t so happy about it.  He’s been living a [pretty good life so far].”

Supernatural - Jared PadaleckiBefore some fans of Dean and the brothers’ relationship pick up your pitchforks, know that Jared isn’t trying to say that Sam doesn’t love Dean because he doesn’t want to hunt.  As a fan of Supernatural myself, I can understand that interpretation, but I think that Sam can still love his brother and not want to be part of the life of hunting, particularly given what that kind of life has stolen from the both of them.  Jared went on to address Sam’s reaction to his brother when they see each other again in the pilot: “I think Sam, in a weird way, I think Sam ’s kind of the adult in this reconciliation.  He’s like, ‘look, I found my own thing.  You’re my brother and I love ya, and I’m so happy you’re back and I’m gonna help you now, but I want out’.  Sam is kind of in a place where he wants to move on to something different.  And not to any discredit of Dean and not that it belittles their relationship or his feelings for his brother or his past with his brother.  But I think Dean resents Sam more because, like I touched on earlier, Sam was living a good, kosher life down in Kermit, Texas with a girl that he fell in love with and a dog and Dean was fighting for his life.  So Sam is saying ‘let bygones be bygones, I’ll help you out, but when this is done I’m out.  For real.  I’ve experienced life without hunting at all’….even when he was in college he had that living over his head.  This is the first time we’ve seen Sam actually having no anchor holding him back to the hunting life.  So when he experiences that he wants to move on.  So when they reconcile, or reconvene is probably a more accurate word, Dean is going ‘Dude, I never stopped.  I know I vanished, but I kept hunting and I kept trying to find you and help you.  What did you do?’ Sam [thinks he did the] ‘only thing I could do.  I didn’t have anybody to call, I just tried to live a life.’  There’s no hard feelings on Sam’s part but it’s a bone of contention for Dean.”

Does this mean that Sam isn’t committed to the season-long goal of finding a new God tablet to close the Gates of Hell (which we learned about in the preview for the season)?  Of course not.  Sam is 100% committed to that.  “He’s going to try to help out [Dean] with the task at hand and hopefully then do his own thing again.  He’s not going to leave him hanging, he’s going to go ‘I do owe you this and you’ve done a lot more for me than anybody else has, and vice versa, but you’ve earned this, so I’ll help.  We both believe we’re on to something that will end our hunting careers forever’  So Sam’s like ‘you know what?  Perfect.  Because I know what it’s like to not have an anchor into the hunting aspect of life, so I would love to not have a need for that hunting aspect of life.  And if this can solve that, then I’m in’.”

Supernatural - Misha CollinsAs for Misha Collins, there’s only teasers to be had right now, at least until we see more about Castiel.  He did, however, give us a glimpse into Castiel’s state in Purgatory: “I think Cas’ experience in Purgatory is shaped by everything that’s come before.”  Misha alluded to the fact that Purgatory is, in a sense, a place for Castiel to atone for the sins he committed in seasons 6 and 7.  “It’s a tough place for Cas.  I think that he kind of feels like he deserves that.”  Don’t fret, Castiel fans, there’s much more to come with Misha!  Of the first eight episodes of the season, he’s in four of them, and episodes 7 and 8 are ones that Castiel fans won’t want to miss!

The season 8 premiere of Supernatural will air on Wednesday, October 3 at 9:00 p.m. on The CW.  Keep an eye on our Supernatural page for more season 8 details.

While at the studio, we went on a tour of the Supernatural wardrobe department and productions offices.  Use the arrows above to view some cool photos from behind the scenes at the studio.  A video of Jared’s interview will be posted soon.

*Travel and accommodation provided by Warner Bros. Television

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  • Dilys

    I am dying to know more about Cas but I’m happy for the info you did give us. Cas is my favorite character on SPN and the complete blackout regarding his storyline this year has been agonizing. I can’t wait to know more and hope Cas gets to finally reunite with Dean and Sam and TFW can fly again. Thanks also for all the Sam info. It’s so nice to start a season without something wrong with Sam again. He has had vision, demon blood addiction, soulessness and mind wall breakage so pretty much something wrong every season. I look forward to seeing this aspect of Sam. But mostly I am really looking forward to seeing Cas’storyline unfold.

    • G

      Why do you you Cas morons have to spam every article that isn’t even about him? So tacky and obnoxious drowning out all the fans that love Sam/Jared and Dean?Jensen, that want to respond to what was actually discussed. Go back tumblr, if all you want to do is go on and on about Cas.

      • Dilys

        This article is about Cas and Sam as you can see from the title. And obviously many fans also love Cas. Let me turn the question around. Do you enjoy running to every article spamming your hatred?

      • GinaDay

        Uh…excuse me, but we’re fans too and I’m sorry that there are so many of us, but that’s life?

        • Dilys

          I glad there are so many Dean and Sam fans. I’m a huge fan of all three Supernatural stars. Very excited for Season 8 and a chance to watch Dean, Sam and Cas in action again.

          • GinaDay

            My comment was directed at the person above you. But yes, I agree. XD

        • Dilys

          LOL, sorry about that. I clearly failed at reading comprehension there. I’m just so excited to finally get some Cas news, even though it’s very minimal.

        • G

          Nah, there are fare more Sam and Dean fans. Cas fan are just more annoyingly overzealous and comment on every single article to make yourself seem like you represent the majority of fandom when you don’t. Not by a longshot.

          • Beth

            You’re being needlessly insulting. You’re not doing a great job convincing anyone that fans of Cas are the obnoxious ones, here.

          • GinaDay

            LOL yeah ok, not even gonna go there. Stay securely in your bubble. :)

      • aurens66

        Woah, you know the show is the show, discuss what’s going on that impacts Supernatural, fandom does what fandom does. The two don’t intersect at all. It’s a waste of time to worry (and complain) about ‘what other fans’ do.

      • Beth

        If you want to call other people morons, you should probably use spelling and proper punctuation.

    • Marisa

      I, too, love Castiel (the old Cas, not the Cas who purposely tore down Sam’s wall when he didn’t get his way) but it always amazes me when people proclaim that a secondary character is their favorite. I mean, to each their own but meh.

      • Anne

        duh… and it never cease to amaze me why it’s such a crime in this fandom to have a favourite character on this show that it’s not Sam or Dean, specially if this secondary character has had a major role like Cas or Bobby. It’s pretty common in all the shows and it doesn’t mean you hate or don’t like the main characters as well, yeesh.

        • Nic

          Exactly Anne. I love Cas but just because he’s my favourite doesn’t mean that I don’t love Sam and Dean as well

        • Kate

          Exactly. It seems like the SPN fandom (sections of it) are the only ones who have a problem with this. It’s pretty common in the fandoms of every show I’ve ever watched for some people to identify strongly with a character that is not necessarily the “star” or one of the leads. Given that Cas has been on the show for four years and he was a regular for like 2 of those years, it’s not that weird that for many he’s a favorite character. It is weird that only in SPN fandom is there a faction of people that see this as a threat somehow. To what, I really don’t know.

          My favorite character personally is Dean, but only by a smidge really. In some episodes, I like Sam the best, and in some eps my favorite is Cas.

  • http://twitter.com/tiptoe39 tiptoe39

    Clarissa, I could kiss you! Well, that’s true most of the time, but it’s particularly true today. What wonderful insights! I like how the seasons 8-10 arc seems to be connected to this Cutting Off Demons quest. That’s a really good one and something tells me it won’t be so easy. Plus, even without demons there are still monsters and creatures, and we know they come from this world, so something tells me Sam’s not gonna have that much of an “out” even if they succeed. Which I don’t think they will. Plus, forever is rarely actually forever, or Purgatory would have never opened…

    (Suppose it’s too much to wonder if they’ll consider Adam’s soul in the Cage before they pull the plug…)

    I think it’s hysterical that Jared said “No Bobby, no Misha.” Boy, he really misses interacting with Cas, doesn’t he? :D Love those two.

    So one thing that strikes me as odd is Sam mentioning that Dean says “I kept trying to find you and help you.” Is there something Dean did in Purgatory that would have been helpful to Sam on Earth? Was Purgatory showing Dean something that he thought would reach his brother?

    And as for episodes 7 and 8 being ones Cas wants to miss, I’m holding out hope that he comes home! <3

    Thanks as always for the wonderful articles and for being so responsive to your fans (both fans of you, and fellow fans of SPN)! Lots of love!

    • http://twitter.com/tiptoe39 tiptoe39

      Erm. Episodes 7 and 8 being ones “NO” Cas “FAN” wants to miss. thanks for swallowing my words, silly website. XD

    • Anne

      I think Dean means he tried to find a way to get Sam back when he was in hell, even if he was with Lisa and Ben. At least, that’s what i took from it. i don’t think there was any way to contact Sam from purgatory but Sam is probably what kept Dean motivated to fight for his life.
      I still don’t like the whole attitude they’re showing for Sam, it’s totally in character for him to want a normal life and all, but i’m still not happy that he just moved on without making sure his brother was not in danger… i mean i get that it was hard to figure it out what happened but not imposible and from the way Jared worded it, it seems a bit like… oh well, Dean and Cas are gone, too bad… let’s move on. i’m still hopeful and in a wait and see attitude that there’s more than that due to Jeremy’s word about things not really being what they seem… but if that’s it, i won’t be a happy camper. Though i’m really interested on Amelia’s character and to see less codependecy and a more adult relationship between the brothers.

      VERY excited about the Cas teasers too! i’m having a hard time trusting what they do with the character after S7, but so far, i like what i’m hearing!

      • FB

        I totally agree.
        Hope it’s really not like Jared worded it. But I’m slightly worried, because he’s saying basically the same things since Comic Con, and they’re filming ep 8 now, so it’s not like he hasn’t read enough scripts this time.

  • GinaDay

    AHHHHHHHH I’m so excited!!! With how very little info is being released about I Cas, I know we must be in for something awesome. :D So stoked.

    • Beth

      Me too, I tell you what! <3

  • Anna

    Ooh yay, I can’t wait! So excited for Castiel’s storyline. I love Cas.

  • Aki

    Have to watch episodes 7 and 8. Noted :D I like that Sam hasn’t given up on his old dream to quit hunting and get himself a girlfriend, even after everything. It reminds me of season 1 Sam, who still valued a life outside of the hunting world. Sound like Cas has to suffer quite a bit, but by now I’m kinda use to it. I missed him an awful lot last season. Last but not least, as much as I love Cas and Dean, and Dean and Sam, I’m hoping for some Cas and Sam time, too.

  • Melissa

    Wow, Sam’s storyline sounds awful.

    • Jared

      Thank Carver for that. This whole thing sounds utterly horrible. It’s like his goal was to pit Sam and Dean against each other ideologically. And throw Cas in Dean’s corner because Carver thinks that’s what fans want. That’ll do nothing but create fandom wank. Jared is getting shafted this season and not in a good way. My only hope is that at least Jensen’s character’s storyline might be somewhat decent. At least, based on the spoilers it will be. And I hope Cas does, in fact, earn repentance for his actions. Because, in my opinion, sucking Lucifer out of Sam’s head wasn’t nearly enough to repent for what he did. Especially since he’s the one who put Lucifer there to begin with. Hell, he’s the reason Sam had to go to hell to begin with.

      • silver

        There was no problem the last two seasons when Dean was stuck with the non story of Lisa/Ben and then no story at all for season 7. I think it’s fine that Sam gets his family/normal like he always wanted.

        However, the way Jared makes it sound, Sam is not only happy, happy, happy that Dean is gone and he has his normal life back, but that Sam is also very resentful when Dean comes back. Nice brother, that Sam. Gee Dean, how very inconsiderate of you not to be dead and to come back and screw up Sam’s life. Maybe next time Dean dies, Sam will not only throw a party, but will make sure Dean never comes back to screw up his life. So much for the brotherly bond that seems to work only one way.

        @Jane:”Sam suffered torture by two angels in the Cage for nearly 2 centuries, and no one even asked him how he felt after wards. ”
        Are you kidding me? Dean spent all of season 6 getting Sam’s stupid selfish soul out of the Cage and Sam never bothered to even look for Dean when Dean went to purgatory. Then he spent the next 1 1/2 season pandering to Sam’s needs and wants. If anyone is selfish, it’s Sam, who uses his passive/aggressive behaviour to manipulate Dean, who takes off in the middle of the night.

        Yeah, Sam’s such a great brother and Dean’s a dick. In that case, maybe Sam should have the balls to tell Dean he doesn’t want to hunt and I think the PTBs should allow Dean to tell Sam that it’s fine with Dean if Sam doesn’t want to hunt, and leave Sam with Amelia and their dog.

        Then Dean and Cas can hunt while Sam does his normal stuff. I’d rather Dean hunted with Cas anyway. At least Cas cares enough about Dean to be there for him, something Sam has never done.

        • Tina

          Wow! Like Clarissa predicted, Sam haters didn’t miss the opportunity to start bashing Sam!

          • Kate

            I don’t agree with this person at all. Sam is vital to the show, and I don’t think he’s in the wrong AT ALL for wanting to have some kind of life. And for all he knew, Dean was dead. If Sam hadn’t learned after all these years (especially after what Bobby said in the finale) that you have to accept that people die and move on with your life and not try and bring them back from the dead, it’d be kind of ridiculous and repetitive.

            However, the hypocrisy in this fandom makes me laugh. Somehow in this fandom, it’s totally ok to hate on Castiel to an extreme level and then someone hates on Sam, and people act like it’s some kind of moral transgression. I don’t hate on any characters, but to be honest, if you can hate on one character, I guess all the characters are fair game. I think if some people didn’t spend so much time putting so much negativity into the fandom with the constant character bashing, they’d probably find less hate for their favorite character as well.

        • Beth

          I disagree with you. I think you are terribly misinterpreting both the current spoilers, and the past attitudes of the show. The brothers will always be the main focus of the show. And hopefully Cas will get to join them for the long-haul, but not ever at the expense of their relationship. You don’t know the characters very well if you think any of them would be happy with that.

          • Tina

            My reply is to @Kate, but there is no reply button under her comment.
            I didn’t even mention Cas, I just replied to a comment that was bashing Sam and Sam only. I don’t know how this makes me a hypocrite, but whatever issues you have keep them away from me, OK?

          • FB

            I agree with you, but I also understand the bitterness of the comment above, ’cause if Sam gets back hunting as a favor to his brother, just because he *owe* him, and Dean *earned* that, it just destroys the meaning this show gives to FAMILY, and I’d rather Dean said “listen Sam, if you don’t wanna do it, just don’t do it” .. I mean, Sam shouldn’t be this reluctant helping his brother out and accomplishing some great goal like defeating evil for good. If he goes back and hunt he should do it because he WANTS to help his brother, period. His brother is not something holding him back or tying him to a life he doesn’t want, but it seems he is from what Jared is saying .. That’s so disappointing.

        • lucy

          Some fans are so eager for the Dean and Castiel show. Dean doesn’t want to hunt with Castiel, he only wants Sam.

    • eaksoy

      How does a positive storyline for Sam sounds awful? I am so goddamn happy that Sam is getting something good (a love story with, hopefully, someone who’s not evil) finally, he deserves it.

  • Katie86

    I’m actually so excited I might crawl out of my own skin. SEASON GR8 CANNOT COME SOON ENOUGH.

    • Beth

      YES! :’D

  • Marisa

    I always ALWAYS love hearing from Jared regarding his character. I feel like he’s always the most insightful when it comes to what will actually happen on the show. We don’t really get that from Jensen, and to a lesser extent, Misha.

    Hearing Jared describe Sam’s mindset going into this season helps me understand all these ludicrous spoilers we’ve gotten so far. At first it seemed like Sam was just abandoning Dean and it angered me because that’s so very OOC. But now it makes sense. And it’s prefectly in character. When you have nothing left, what do you do? You move on. That’s a very real situation that we haven’t really seen these characters do on this show in quite a while – if ever. It’s incredibly human.

    I’m just curious how that actually works out. Obviously their conquest this season will not be successful. They won’t rid the world of evil because apparently we get, if green-lighted, a season nine and ten. What could they possibly do with Sam living a normal life and Dean being the only hunter for two more seasons. Something tells me that Sam and Dean are both in for a lot of emotional rollercoastering this season. Which is good. I just hope it’s conflict between them that creates growth and doesn’t just drive a wedge between them as brothers because, in the end, that’s what this show is all about.

    • Beth

      I completely, utterly disagree with you. It’s always seen as a sign of maturity in coming-of-age story arcs when the son finally works up the courage to honestly tell his father or authority figure that he wants to pursue his own dream, separate from the life that’s been forced on him. Now it’s up to Dean to grow up a little and understand that about Sam. It’s not going to destroy their relationship, it’s going to make them stronger. But now it /will/ be a relationship of choice and respect, instead of codependency and necessity. I’m happy about it.

      • sasha

        Why does Dean need to “grow up” if all he did was come back from Purgatory? It`s not his fault if Sam feels inconvenienced by that and it`s certainly not Dean`s responsibility to cater to Sam`s every need. Everyone in Dean`s situation would feel miffed. He is not wrong for it and if that, those feelings, inconvenience Sam, too, tough freaking luck.

        He doesn`t physically force Sam to hunt from anything I`m reading.

        • Beth

          Dean is emotionally stunted in many ways, and has always had a hard time respecting Sam’s dream to get out of ‘the life’. That’s not his fault (he was forced to grow up too fast, never had a childhood, therefore missed a lot of critical lessons on maturely dealing with things like separation), and his reactions are completely understandable (justifiable, even) — but it would be wrong of him to continue to ignore how sincere Sam is on this point. But no worries, I think both brothers will understand each other and reconcile their separate experiences by the end of the season! :) It’s all about growth.
          I love Dean, I didn’t mean to come off negatively! I think this is going to make their bond stronger.

        • Sara

          Dean has had to “let” Sam grow up so many times already on this freaking show that it’s become a running joke and I’m sure betting pools are now being set up over when/in what episode The Apology will come. How bout if we could get some of Sam growing up, all on his own, from these writers by having him realize that he has often in his life taken Dean for granted and been very self-involved and self-centered within the brotherly relationship-for whatever his reasons. That’s how Carver ought to to write Sam as “maturing”, IMO, and if they want their writing to seem genuine and realistic in this area, again IMO.

        • Beth

          Sara, I’m pretty sure Sam’s apologized to Dean before. But both of them are constantly making mistakes and then resolving them, very much like in a real relationship. People are constantly changing and needing to relearn each other, otherwise the relationship grows stale and falls apart. It’s a good thing that they both need to come back together again over their time apart. It will give them a new perspective on themselves and each other. It will be healthy.

        • TVHolic

          Of course it’s Dean’s responsibility to cater to Sam’s every whim and emotional mood swing. When Sammy wants to wear his big boy pants, Dean has to learn the lesson that he’s a big ol’ bossy meany.

          When Sammy needs his big brother, Dean has to learn the lesson that he’s big ol’ bossy meany for not shoving his own hurt and pain down and being their to support his pwecious.

          Dude, it’s like you don’t even watch this show. ;)

    • Mar

      I really disagree with you and I know many fans do too. Jared is very unfortunate in his choice of words, and sometimes alientates a section of the fans, enough here that other interviewers were questioning his love of his brother.

      Jensen is always more thoughtful in his choices of words, and the best, most consistent supporter of both the brothers together. That is a simple fact well known in fandom.

      • TVHolic

        Agreed on all counts.

      • Marisa

        No. It’s not a fact known in fandom. Jared is describing his character. The ONLY character he plays. Because he was asked about it. He’s giving insight into his headspace regarding HIS character. Nobody asked him what Jensen’s character was doing or how Sam’s story would affect Dean. That’s JENSEN’S job. Not Jared’s.

        Jensen seems incapable of providing insight to Dean the same way Jared does for Sam or Misha does for Castiel. I think Jensen doesn’t like giving up too much but you certainly cannot call Jared ineloquent simply because he doesn’t provide you with what you want to hear regarding Dean and/or Sam-n-Dean.

        You, m’dear, are verging into hater territory. Keep that on Tumblr, thanks.

        • roxi

          Like your post doesn’t smack of Dean hate Marissa?
          I personally think Jensen is insightfulf, you don’t like him so of course you would say that. As for Jared, I think he’s insightful too. just because people are tired of the shaft Dean/Jensen always gets doesn’t mean they hate Sam, at least I don’t.

          • Tina

            Oh, please! As if it doesn’t go both ways! EDGs are as nasty as the ESGs you’re describing. Just take a look at the comments here. Even you are doing the same thing you’re accusing Sam fans of!

        • Mar

          Yes, it is very much a fact.

          Just browse the comment section here regarding Jared’s comments on Sam’s season 8 feelings. JP gives insight into Sam’s feelings, yes, but most are very upset, including Sam fans. Especially because it implies a blindness to what the brother’s bond is about. Something Carver seems to share, if you only look at spoilers.

          Jensen is very well known as the strongest defender of the brothers together, and the meaning of their relationship. And if you don’t know this, you are willfully blind about it. Jensen thinks about the show through the filter of the BROTHERS, not just Dean, and when he gives insight. it makes me want to watch the show, where I can’t always say that with Jared or Misha.

    • Mina

      So Jensen’s interview left me really excited about the new season, the new mysteries, the new characters and as usual JP’s threw water right over it. So JP tries to make it sound like Sam’s being “big” by agreeing to “help” Dean? Really? What Sam is showing isn’t healthy, it isn’t lack of co-dependency, it’s a self-centeredness that frankly I’ve never seen a tv show or movie actually try to pass off as a good thing before(probably because most writers aren’t so committed to whitewashing a character’s behavior that they’d ignore the obvious). What about Kevin Tran? He just left him to his fate with Crowley? Again, really? By all rights Kevin should be pissed the hell off, that Sam just left him to Crowley to do god knows what to – but I’m sure the show, as usual, in the whitewash, will make Kevin A-OK with that, and pat Sam on the back for not bothering to try and help him, thus leaving Dean the only one who gets painted with the “selfish” brush for you know expecting his brother to not just go “Hey oh too bad, looks like Dean’s dead….Wow look a dog…and a chick…yay I’m gonna go live my normal life now”. But they’d never ever had Sam admit to being selfish like that, to actually giving up because he just didn’t want to bothered, so they have to try and make Dean look bad instead.

      What Dean needs to realize is he’s far better off without Sam than with him and that he’s more than capable of doing whatever it is that needs to be done without Sam’s help. Dean’s already done the impossible when everyone was telling him it couldn’t be done, what does he need Sam for? I sure hope the show doesn’t have Dean “apologize” to Sam for being hurt and finding Sam’s actions incredibly selfish, because he shouldn’t have to. Dean’s right.

      Dean’s smart, he’s creative, he’s generous of heart and relatively unselfish, he’s as badass as they come and he’s stood up to the most powerful beings around and you know what? He doesn’t need Sam to be an amazing hunter, to do his job and to do it better than anyone else(and I’m not quite sure how the writers think they are going to convince people that hunters will be unneccessary if Dean and Sam can close the gates of Hell? Um…there are plenty of monsters that are born and live right here on earth, per Supernaturals own mythology, in fact prior to the show there was very little interaction with demons by hunters(see Bobby’s comment in Devil’s Trap and Samual Campbell’s reaction to the idea of demons being around in In The Beginning).

      Dean’s a unique human being, he’s incredibly strong inside and he sees situations that he can help in and he’s can’t just keep standing on the sidelines knowing he could help people and be happy about it. The situation with Lisa showed that, he cared about them deeply because he’s a loving person, but he wasn’t happy. Wasn’t happy having to lie about everything to everyone else around him, wasn’t happy knowing things were happening but he wasn’t supposed to do that now to fit into Lisa and Ben’s life. He continued trying to find a way to help Sam, even if he couldn’t find the answer(the writers could easily have had Sam do that this year, he tried, and was still trying, but he just couldn’t find a way to get Dean out but then they couldn’t have “taught” Dean a lesson he didn’t really need to learn and shouldn’t have had to learn(aka your brother really only cares about you when it’s convenient for him)

      Sam isn’t maturing. He’s being a selfish person as usual and the show as usual is totally whitewashing it. There was no excuse for Sam to just abandon Dean(and Kevin as a matter of fact) to their fates. Dean disappeared, so knowing everything Sam knows and how nothing is ever as it seems in their world, he just decides “Oh well must be dead or at least someone I can’t EASILY find, so I’m just gonna do what I’ve been DYING to do for, like, ever and go live a normal life”? How in god’s name does that make ANY sense? It doesn’t.

      What it says is that Sam is either lazy(oh but it would be, like totally HARD to do it without Bobby to give me all the answers and to try and find some new contacts on my own) and/or stupid(yeah I just assumed that “disappeared” means “dead”) and/or just looking for an excuse to finally be rid of Dean, and thus hunting, in a way that he can convince himself he shouldn’t feel guilty about(fairly self explanatory).

      Apparently doing a little hard work is too much to ask of him to save the brother who, you know, repeatedly risked his life in order to get Sam’s soul, a soul no one else gave a DAMN about(not Bobby, not Castiel, not anyone), a soul everyone told him it was impossible to save, out of Hell. Which is the only reason Sam’s even alive right now so you’d think he’d feel greatful enough to spent a couple of years hunting, trying to save Kevin from Crowley and maybe in his spare time trying to find ways to figure out what really happened to his brother and to get him out if he wasn’t dead.

      That isn’t mature, if that’s mature than all those people who spend years searching for their vanished loved ones or trying to bring those who harmed/killed them to justice are being immature.

      The show can do it’s usual whitewash and people like the writer of this article can make all the excuses they want for Sam’s behavior but what it comes down to is he’s been incredibly selfish and shows he hasn’t changed a bit since Season 1 and hasn’t matured at all really. Because for Sam, it’s still really all.about.Sam. Who cares about anyone else?

      And for the record, I could care less about Amelia, I’m fine with her presence, with her being his girlfriend, what I’m not fine with is what the whole situation says about Sam and more importantly what I am SURE the writers are going to try and use the situation to say about DEAN.

  • Joy

    Poor Jared, trying to make this horrifically boring storyline sound like something interesting

    • Beth

      Well, considering that Jared is the one lobbying for more insight into the relationship he had with Amelia via flash-backs, I’d venture to say he finds it genuinely interesting. I do too, because I want to see how it affects his character development and his relationship with Dean. Different spokes for different folks, I guess.

  • Sara

    Geez, Jared’s slant on things and his thought that Sam is coming off as more of the “adult” in the brothers’ relationship is pretty disheartening for me; and if that’s also Carver’s intent for the writing of the brothers this season, that’s going to be too bad, IMO, because it’s that type of unbalanced writing that’s turned many in the fandom off of the brothers’ relationship. I, myself, have pretty much given up on the writing of the brothers’ relationship, and I’m trying not to care about it as much as I used to so that I can just enjoy all of the other stuff-because all the other stuff sounds so terrific. I DO fear from this, however, that the writing of the brothers relationship is truly just never going to change. If they invalidate Dean’s feelings(yet again) by having him apologize to Sam(yet again) for how he(Dean) feels after all that he’s been through and then finding out that Sam couldn’t be bothered looking for him, I will cry foul-especially if Sam gets to skate away unscathed again. I’m tired of Dean being forced by the writing to feel “bad” or “wrong” for having feelings that are just as justifiable on his end as Sam’s feelings are for him-all things considered in their world-and this just to yet again prop up another one of Sam’s questionable decisions/choices in order to make it look or seem like the “right” one. This kind of writing has ruined the brothers’ relationship for me(and for many others I know), so I hope it’s only Jared’s “spin” on things, and not Carver’s.
    Glad to hear the Cas stuff, though, and big thanks for the interviews.

    • Eleanor

      I totally agree…

    • Beth

      I am of a slightly different opinion, in that I think the role reversal for the brothers is both intriguing and understandable. I’m really glad that Jared seems so happy with the story so far, though, because I know he and Jensen hold high stock in the brothers’ relationship. I feel like Dean will be treated fairly, this season, but he does have a lot of emotional baggage to deal with. It will be good to see how that resolves, I think. I’m also super glad to hear any tidbits about Cas, especially ones that are so encouraging! :D

    • silver

      Well said.

    • Tina

      Where in the article did you read that Dean will be apologizing to Sam AGAIN? To me it’s clear that Sam is going to be the “bad” brother again. And personally I’m tired of watching Dean always being right and Sam always being wrong.
      For me (and for many others I know) the brothers’ relationship is the most important thing on the show and this is something that’s never gonna change.
      As much as I don’t like what I read here, I still hope that Jeremy Carver can bring this special bond back!

      • Beth

        I don’t get the feeling Sam is in the wrong. I get the feeling they both need to overcome their misunderstandings. It’s a good character move, it’ll bring them closer in the end. :)

      • FB

        Sara indeed does say IF Dean’s gonna apologize to Sam, not that she read it in the article. And I agree with her. That would be so wrong, and this whole thing as it is. It seems to me they gonna make Sam looks bad AGAIN, and IF they’re making it seems like Sam is the mature part of the duo (as Jared says) because he moved on and didn’t try and bring his brother back from wherever he desappeared, then it’s gonna lead to Dean looking like the selfish brother who doesn’t want Sam to have a life away from him AGAIN, which we already saw. All of it. And don’t need to see again. I hope Carver can bring us back the special bond too, because I love BOTH the brothers, and their relationship it’s been one of the most beautiful and real I’ve ever saw on tv, but lately it’s been dismissed and treated so very lightly.

  • Jane

    How like the SPN writers and fandom to ignore Castiel’s victim, Sam, when he was suffering in seasons 6 and 7, but pour it on for the viewers to make them feel sorry for Castiel the villain. It’s gross and immoral. Not to mention hypocritical in the extreme. People stopped watching this show when they brought Castiel back so horribly in 7.17 last season. Too bad he ruined Sam’s one big episode, when Sam was the real victim and sufferer out of all of them.

    So, what were Castiel’s best qualities, trying to hurt or kill Sam, torture, virgin and dog killing, mass murder? Ruby was killed for far, far less than what Castiel got away with. I guess if you’re an angel on SPN, you can murder and torture anyone you want to and be celebrated and coddled for it. They didn’t woobify Sam for anything ever, but they will do this for Castiel, and do this for Dean. How many thousands of tv viewers has this cost SPN over the years, I wonder, because it has certainly cost this show more and more fan followers.

    Sam suffered torture by two angels in the Cage for nearly 2 centuries, and no one even asked him how he felt after wards. The question isn’t what kind of monsters are Castiel and Benny, but what kind of human monsters out there don’t care about Sam’s humanity and suffering after such a horrible trauma. Season 7 was an abomination and a heartless mess. How is Season 8 any different? When you show more love and understanding for a villain than the victim he hurt, what does that say about this show’s writing and production staff? Where is the moral line here, is there one anymore?

    Notice how Sam is not mad at Dean but Dean is mad at Sam? This is the crap storm we have to live with every season now and it makes the show suck, and it makes Dean suck, too, frankly. He’s always mad at Sam, mean with Sam, attacking Sam verbally or physically. I’m just tired of Dean’s attitude towards Sam, just really really tired of Dean crapping all over Sam because Sam doesn’t do or want what Dean’s wants when Dean wants it.

    This is why SPN now needs to be told from Sam’s POV for once, because Dean’s POV has been killing the heart and soul out of the show for far too many seasons now.

    • Beth

      I feel like we’re watching two completely different shows, but to each their own. I’m glad that Sam himself has forgiven Cas for what he did (which was horrendous and completely wrong and unjustifiable, yes). I’m glad that Dean gets a story line that is distinctly his own this season. I’m glad that Sam is maturing so beautifully. I’m glad that Cas is still in the show. I think that a lot of the pain of past seasons is going to be reconciled and addressed this time around. Hopefully, by the end, everyone will be happy with the character development. :)

      • Dilys

        What a lovely, calm, respectful voice of reason you are being. I’ve enjoyed all your comments and agree completely with you.

        • Beth

          Oh, wow, thank you so much! I really appreciate that. I try hard (and sometimes fail miserably) — but I love this show, and I’m so glad that I could be a positive part of your experience. <3

      • http://twitter.com/tiptoe39 tiptoe39

        Beth, I just want to say, you are kind of fabulous and I really hope you’re on Twitter because I would love to have these discussions with you there. You seem like the sanest, most grown-up person in the room here. It’s really nice to see a reasoned voice who is thinking hard about the issues raised by the show and, while not Pollyanna-positive, at least sees possibilities and opportunities for discussion. There ought to be more thoughtful fans like you out there. :)

        • Beth

          I actually teared-up a little. :’) Thank you so much. I do have a Twitter (got it to follow the Supernatural cast, actually, haha!) — I’m Beth_Minervino, if you want to continue to talk over there. I love to talk about the show and the characters, so I’d love to hear from you.

          • http://twitter.com/tiptoe39 tiptoe39

            Consider yourself followed! :)

          • Beth

            :D

    • Anne

      I would try to debate your points but i must be watching the same show Beth’s watching, so it’d be pointless. i’m just curious about one thing… dog killing?? when did Cas kill a dog? lol.

      • Jane

        There was dog’s blood in the blood used by Crowley and Raphael, meaning, Castiel killed a dog and drained it’s blood out for a trick.

        Charming, no?

        • Beth

          We’ll not excuse any of our characters for bad behavior. Okay? They’ve all made terrible, terrible mistakes in the past. They’re the ‘good guys’ only because the story is told from their perspective. But in the Supernatural universe, morality is one big, shady, gray area. Intentions are all that matter, in the end, it’s all they have. Cas did what he did, ultimately, out of love — and Sam forgives him because of that. Dean forgives him because of that. They’ve both told Cas they know he was just doing what he thought was right, the best he could at the time. Just like Cas doesn’t blame Dean for breaking in Hell, and Dean’s forgiven Sam for choosing Ruby. Everyone has always just done what they thought was right, and best. That’s why we love and forgive them, too.

        • eaksoy

          Hey Sam killed and drained a whole innocent nurse in season 4. But I love him for his character flaws as well as his qualities. For one thing, he thought he was doing the right thing by listening to a demon and wanted to repent afterwards when he realized what he had done. Seems familiar no? You have no reason to diss Castiel and his fans when there are so many parallels between him and Sam. Don’t get me wrong, the writing concerning Sam was really misused, they basically wasted his character (in my opinion) and alleviated what he went through. But this seasons seems great in the regard that we finally get some alone and NORMAL time for Sam to mature through. A time where maybe he won’t be defined by anything supernatural or anyone. Purgatory is great and all but I’m really excited by Sam’s storyline in this season.

        • King B

          Er, while I’m not invalidating your interpretation of that scene I’m having a hard time understanding why you would assume the dog was dead.

          1. Having the blood doesn’t mean he killed it since he could’ve just as well stolen it from a animal hospital. Or something more mundane since I wasn’t left to assume that he killed the the food workers during 5.14 when he kept showing up with cheeseburgers even though he shouldn’t have any money to be able to pay for hundreds of them.

          2. He was holding what looks to be, since I pickle my own veggies, no more than a 32 oz canning jar that wasn’t even full at the point in which you see him with it before killing Balthazar. If it was full it would’ve been 2 pints of blood in the jar per the allotted fl oz a 32 oz jar can hold. Going by what I saw it was a little over halfway full so he had about a pint and half for argument’s sake since it was tilted in the shot. That still wouldn’t be enough to kill anything other than a toy dog since your average dog has about 6 pints of blood and the larger breeds can range into 8+ pints.

          • Beth

            Ah! Good points.

    • GinaDay

      I am also with Beth here. On all points.

  • Beth

    Man, I love Jared. I could listen to him talk about Sam’s arc all day. I’m so excited to see what the new season has in store for Dean, Sam, and Cas! I can’t wait to see how their relationship with each other grows and evolves. It’s going to be an awesome adventure!

  • EGH

    YAAAAAAAAY CAAAAAAAAAAAS!!! Oh, this sounds wonderful. I love Sam and Dean’s relationship, but I want other kinds of relationships explored other than just a “brotherly” one. No one can live on just a familial relationship with one person, you need all kinds of relationships in your life, ones that familial ones can only go so far to fulfill. I want to see romance and, in Dean and Cas’ case, really close “friends” *cough*. This is great. Can’t wait to see the boys’ storylines, and especially Castiel’s, since it’s being kept so tightly under wraps!

  • Tina

    I really hope Sam’s story is not as awful on screen as it sounds here… This is very disappointing, because not only Sam’s storyline seems bad, but the writers make him -once again- look bad…

    • Beth

      I actually think the writing makes Dean look bad, exposes all of his old insecurities, and his inability to truly relate with Sam’s need for a normal life. Dean always had this abstracted idea of what that was, and the one time he tried it, he was miserable. So he’ll have to mature himself in order to realize that for all Sam’s life, all he ever wanted was home and stability, a normal life, without monsters. It’s kind of poetic, that Dean, who was born to a family and home and never had a demons blood running through his veins, would be the one who belonged in a world with monsters — while Sam, the boy with the demon blood, who had never known a normal life until he built one for himself, would always feel homesick for a world of safety and peace. I don’t know. I’m waxing poetic. I love these two a lot. <3

      • Beth

        Dean has flaws. Of course he’s angry, who wouldn’t be? But he needs to recognize that Sam didn’t leave the life because he didn’t care, but rather because he needed to survive and thought he was alone in the world. Dean carries a certain amount of emotional immaturity (because John forced him to grow up to fast, and would never let Dean express healthy emotions), so part of his journey this season will be respecting Sam’s choices and dreams as an adult. That’s all. :) It will be good for both of them. And of course Sam will end up choosing Dean over a normal life, always. I’m not worried.

        • Beth

          *too fast

        • silver


          Dean carries a certain amount of emotional immaturity (because John forced him to grow up to fast, and would never let Dean express healthy emotions), so part of his journey this season will be respecting Sam’s choices and dreams as an adult.”

          And this is fine. Except that from what Jared says, he’s not feeling any remorse that his brother was in purgatory all this time while he, Sam, was having the time of his life. So in other words, Dean should grow up and realize that no matter what, Sam will never have the same love for him as Dean has for Sam and move on. I’m all for that. I hope the writers have enough guts to let Dean walk away once and for all. If Dean is to grow up, as you suggest, then the writers need to let Dean have his life without Sam. Let Sam decide whether he wants to be with Dean and if Sam is only in the hunt to get it all done so he can go back to normal, then Dean should tell Sam forget it. Dean can do the job, with the help of Cas and Benny. Sam can stay in his little world and leave Dean alone. He doesn’t have a problem leaving Dean whenever he gets the chance anyway, and this is the, what? 10th time that Sam left Dean in dire straits just so Sam can go on with his life without Dean?

          Why can’t Dean be allowed to walk away from Sam like Sam keeps doing to Dean? If the writers are serious about letting the guys grow up, then Dean should leave Sam and Sam should learn to apologize to Dean. Not apologize for things he had no control over, but apologize to Dean for all the crap he’s done to Dean in the past and continues to do. That’s maturity. Not Jared’s version of forgiving Dean for being alive and messing up his Mr Normal life.

        • Sasha

          I really, really, really hope your`re wrong about “Dean`s journey” this Season. I hated that theme of “he needs to learn to respect Sam” in Season 5 already in all its sloppy, pretzel-twisted, lopsided way and I do not have the patience for a replay. Especially not with Sam, who is flawless yet again, to just graciously accept Dean`s “wrongness”. I`m find the character of Sam far more sympathetic if the writing called him out on his character flaws every now and then.

          I don`t see or have ever seen how Dean hasn`t treated Sam like an equal partner for the most part. If that is not good enough for Sam, then he doesn`t need to be hunting with his brother. Noone, really noone is forcing him.

          And to be honest, it is Dean, I always saw as not being respected all that much. I`m still waiting for that to change. Or, short of that for Dean to go “well, I`m not begging for it, it`s either there or it isn`t.”

          So really, what you wanna see is the utter antithesis of what I wanna see.

        • Beth

          Probably because Sam doesn’t blame himself for not knowing his brother was alive. It was out of his control. And Dean, while initially angry, will also come to understand that Sam was just doing the best he could. Dean will never just walk away from Sam, unless Sam specifically asks him to (like when he was in the cage). It’s not in his nature, nor should it be. Dean can live without Sam, he always could, but a big part of his character is that he doesn’t want to. I can relate, as an older sister. I have to let my little sister have her own life, but I never want to be estranged from her. I want to be a part of her life, forever, even if it ends up being a small part once she starts her own family, away from her birth family. Sam has apologized to Dean for the crap he’s done in the past. And Dean’s forgiven him (even though, reasonably, there’s still some lingering emotional mess).

          You do not know Dean very well if you think he’d be better of without Sam in his life.

        • Beth

          Sasha, are you kidding? Dean had to let Sam grow up and be his own person, in the early seasons. He didn’t automatically treat him as an equal, as a partner. He treated him like his baby brother (and pseudo-son). It was progress and growth when he started to treat him like an adult. And that’s when we, the audience, were also allowed to stop seeing Dean as the all-strong figure. Like when you figure out your parents are people too, with problems and flaws, surprisingly childlike in some respects. Sam will also learn to respect Dean more and more, especially since Dean has a drive this season which isn’t just throwing himself in harm’s way (like in season three) or hanging on by a thread while circumstances buffet him from all sides. Both brothers will learn each other, all over again, and that can only be a positive development.

      • TVHolic

        If Dean had Sam’s “maturity,” Sam would still be getting gang-banged in some cage in Hell. Just sayin’

        • Beth

          Dean wasn’t responsible for Sam’s release from the Cage, just sayin’. If not for *Castiel*, Dean would still be miserable living with Lisa, because that was his baby brothers’ final request.

          • Sasha

            He was responsible for the soul-part being released insofar as he was the only one who even tried something. Even when everybody else told him not to bother.

          • Beth

            The only reason he knew to get Sam’s soul was because Cas retrieved his body. It was supposedly impossible to break into the Cage without setting Lucifer free (another batch of seals involved in that, too, if I’m not mistaken). So the fact that he didn’t try anything for a year is completely understandable. Sam didn’t hold it against him.

          • TVHolic

            For someone who claims to love Dean, you sure are determined to make sure he doesn’t get credit for anything, invalidating any feelings he might have while blindly defending everything that Sam and Cas do.

        • Marisa

          Yeah, no. Last time I checked, it was Castiel who retrieved Sam’s body from hell. On his own accord. Dean didn’t ask him to and he didn’t know that Castiel had even done so until a year later. Dean merely set out on a mission to return Sam’s soul to his body after he was already out.

          It doesn’t mean anyone “hates” Dean to say these very simple facts. It doesn’t mean anybody is invalidating Dean’s “feelings” or whathaveyou. It means people are capable of non-biased comprehension of a presented story.

          You are so very clearly a Dean stan. So no matter what people say – even when those things are factual – you will always err on the side of stanning for Dean. Which is very sad. And wholly pathetic.

      • Sara

        I definitely would not mind seeing them finally allow Dean to have HIS! own life, away from Sam, and be “good” and “happy” with it-as Sam apparently is with the vet. That would be awesome and different and it would seem to be the definition of “maturity”, that Carver is wanting to push, IMO.

        • TVHolic

          I agree completely. Someone needs to give Dean that book, “He’s Not That Into You” so that he can finally learn to understand that Sam does not and never really has wanted to be Dean’s partner. Now that would be growth and maturity. But nope. To perpetuate the myth of the brotherly bond, someone has to be invested in the relationship and since it never has been and never will be Sam, poor Dean is stuck spinning his wheels for eternity panting after a dude who could take or leave him. Such a waste of a powerful and dynamic character.

          • TK

            You’re one of those people who thinks Dean loves Sam more than Sam loves Dean, aren’t you? Jesus, you people have skewed interpretations of this show.

            Sam has always loved his brother. Very, very much. I think that’s been clearly proven since episode one. Sam wanting to get out of huntin does not mean Sam doesn’t love Dean. For such a Dean stan, you sure are degrading Dean’s character. Is his sole identity a hunter? Is that all he is or ever could be? You’re essentially saying that because Sam doesn’t want to be what Dean is, that Sam automatically cares less for Dean as though all Dean ever is or could be is some monster-hunting monster.

            If Sam and Dean were normal, everyday citizens, they would be just as close as they are as hunters. You’re incorrectly identifying Sam wanting to have a normal life for him not loving or wanting to be around or even respecting Dean.

            The fact here is that Dean is emotionally immature. Sam is emotionally mature. Now the reason for this is because of the way Dean grew up. Of course Sam grew up the same, exact, way. But Dean took it upon himself to be the buffer between Sam and John. Sam experience actual love from Dean. It made him more human. It made him more emotionally mature. Dean’s only source of actual love was from Sam. Yet because of the way Dean grew up, he never learned to process his emotions correctly. This is plain as day. The only time Dean ever expresses his emotions is when it regards Sam. Point proven.

          • Tina

            I could make a very long list of all the times Sam has proved how much Dean means to him. His last sacrifice, sacrificing his sanity at the end of season 6, almost cost him his life, but for you that’s still not enough…
            Fact is Sam cares about Dean as much as Dean cares about Sam. They would BOTH die for each other, not just Dean for Sam. You can choose to ignore facts, but you can’t change them!

          • Sara

            I’m not really sure what Carver is going for with Sam’s sl, but if it’s that he’s trying to depict Sam as the more emotionally “mature” brother, than I will LOL!-and hope that they will write Dean with the same type of “maturity” AKA having him realize that he’d probably be a whole lot happier w/o Sam at the center of his life.

          • TVHolic

            Oh TK, how cute that you think stating opinion as fact is the way to prove a point.

            You may think it’s emotionally mature for Sam to take Dean’s devotion for granted and to walk away time and time again, only to come running back when it’s in his best interests, but I don’t.

            As for Sam “sacrificing his sanity” to get back to Dean, the guy would have stayed in a coma, so I’m afraid that that wasn’t the selfless act you paint it to be. He got something out of it – he got to wake up and live life again, even if he had an annoying halucination riding shotgun in his brain for a little while.

            A life, I might add, that Dean once again got back for him by finding a way to stitch his mind back together with Cas’ help. The life that allows him to get a dog, a girl and a peaceful life. So Sam not doing everything in his power to try to find out what happened to Dean, to me smacks of entitlement and ingratitude, not maturity and brotherly love.

            By the way, I’m sensing that you’re one of those people who think Dean was a rapist for putting Sam’s soul back, ammiright?

          • Tina

            I guess you didn’t pay attention to Sam’s words “you know me, you know why,I’m not leaving my brother alone out there” Sam could have chosen to live with fake memories and be happy (even if it wasn’t real) instead of getting back all these painful memories. And he chose to do it because he wanted to go help Dean. Show played it this way, it’s not just my interpretation.

      • suzy

        This is a very odd way of thinking. When Sam jumped in the cage with Lucifer he didn’t want Dean to spend the rest of his life miserable and alone. Why wouldn’t Dean want the same thing for Sam? It sucks that Dean had to spent a year in purgatory, but to be resentful of Sam for not suffering too would be bizarre. Does anyone ever want their loved ones to be miserable?

        • Nic

          Dean won’t be upset because Sam wasn’t suffering. He will be upset because he didn’t even try to look.

          If I disappeared and my sister didn’t even look for me, I would be upset at her too.

  • Sally

    T love the brothers I do but the resentful Dean towards Sam is getting old.I dont believe Sam has anything to prove has a brother and wanting normal and out of the life is understandableafter everything he has been through. But not sure that parts of this fandom give Sam the understanding he deserves and will see Sam has selfish for sitting next to Dean. I just dont know about the way they go about it with Sam? but on the other hand I dont have a problem with him and Amelia.

    Cas is a different thing all together I have my views on him and what he did to Sam but that is not something I want to get involved in .I am aware alot like him and respect that.

    • Beth

      Thanks for the respect, we appreciate it! :)

      I love Sam, and I’m so glad that has been able to pursue his dream a little. I hope that the show is able to resolve that with his relationship to Dean in a fulfilling manner. I actually think Dean will realize he needs to grow up a little, and let Sam go after his dreams, for real. I think they’ll probably reach a deeper understanding of each other. Hopefully. <3 Best brothers.

      • Sara

        Ah yes, this is exactly what I expect will happen, too-for what will make this oh, only the third or fourth or maybe even fifth go-round of the same message, I think. That’s why I’m done-unless they write Sam as having more of a relatable human being’s feelings about this stuff concerning his brother. I don’t understand how the writers can ask US to understand that Sam would NOT feel bad/guilty for not looking hard enough for Dean, if Sam truly cares, at all, about Dean(and I think we’re in for a HUGE! Dean meltdown this season. Finally.).

        • Beth

          I believe Carver is the one who wrote the Christmas episode, where the origins of the amulet are revealed, as well as the root of Sam’s anger towards John. So I think he’s got a good handle on Sam’s human, emotional side. Sam is more cerebral, generally, so it can be hard to read him sometimes — but he’s got a good heart, and he’s died for Dean (and would again). All will be explained. :)

    • Anne

      I understand Sam’s mindset and i like that he’s getting back some happiness he deserves or, at least, that he can get if they suceed on their quest. But it’s understandable for Dean to be a bit upset after spending a year running for his life in a pretty terrible place like Purgatory, and to find out that the most important person in your live just gave up on finding you and moved on with his life. i mean that’s got to hurt a lot no matter how that came to happen and what Sam’s reasons were… still i’m sure he’ll come to understand Sam’s mindset too, but it’s gonna take some time i think.

      • Beth

        Yes, exactly. :)

      • Marisa

        Has it actually been revealed that Sam never looked for Dean? We haven’t really heard anything regarding that. For all we know, Sam spent some time looking – searching for clues. The season hasn’t aired yet…

        But for fun, place yourself in Sam’s situation for a second. Everyone you love is gone. Your brother just disappeared out of thin air. You have no leads as to where he has gone. You don’t know anything in relation to what has happened. You’re just standing there with nobody and no clues and you don’t even know where to begin looking. What do you do?

        What can you possibly do?

        Sam is very intelligent. He understands that there’s no way he could possibly find Dean on his own. So he moves on.

        And what do we know about Sam? We know that Dean is the single most important person in his life. We know that Sam loves his brother more than anyone. We know that Sam didn’t just forget about his brother and go on to have a happy-go-lucky life. We can almost guarantee that Sam is emotionally damaged over Dean’s disappearance. I think his genuine surprise in the web clip we saw proved that.

        My point is don’t jump the gun too soon.

        • Anne

          Personally, i’m not jumping any gun too soon, i mentioned in an another comment that we have to take in account what JC said about perspective and not being what they seem and heck, even from Jared’s comments here it’s clear that Amelia and Sam get together over their shared grieve or traumas and it doesn’t seem he met her when he left the Leviathans building, so i’m sure he did look until he got desperate without any clue and Amelia must have entered at his lower point and get him back on track and willing to live his life again. Still, it doesn’t change the fact that i can understand Dean’s not going to get too happy to see he’s moved on when he was fighting for his life in Purgatory with probably getting back to his brother as the driving force to keep going.
          As i said, i get where both are coming from and i think both have the right to feel this and think the whole conflict it’s gonna get some interesting against without the need of Amy plots.lol.

        • Sam and Dean Fan

          “We know that Sam didn’t just forget about his brother and go on to have a happy-go-lucky life.”

          We DON’T know that, at least not from the interview. Jared made it sound as though Sam was ecstatic to be away from the life and away from Dean and essentially never looked back, and was NOT thrilled to see him again. He so much as said that Sam was perfectly happy in his new life and that it was inconvenient for him that Dean showed back up and wanted to go hunting again. And he didn’t have ANY evidence that Dean was dead, just that he disappeared, and it wasn’t true he had no one to help him. He had Garth and Sheriff Mills and presumably other hunters, and if it had been Dean in Sam’s place he NEVER would have stopped looking. Heck, Sam is an extremely bright and capable hunter himself and is more than capable of going to the library, he’s a BRILLIANT researcher. It’s ridiculous that he wouldn’t look.

          And I’m sorry but even for normal siblings, which they have never been, a year after losing your brother or sister you are still grieving and it’s still difficult. NO ONE goes on to an idyllically happy life after the loss of a family member, and certainly not brothers who depend on each other to the extent that Sam and Dean do. It just doesn’t make any narrative sense, especially given the mythology of the show up to this point. I blame the writers for this, not necessarily Jared or Sam, but this storyline has nothing to do with the show I love. Sorry but I am REALLY upset.

    • erin

      Well, these are the same fans who honestly think Sam was selfish and wrong for wanting to go to college, so just keep that in mind.

      • Sara

        I’m a huge Dean fan, and I don’t know anyone who thought Sam was wrong for wanting to go to college, but I DO know more than few who wonder why Sam would want to cut the brother who raised him more than even his own father did, out of his life so completely, that he wouldn’t even take a phone call from him in over two years.

        • Beth

          Sam had a lot of anger issues, back then. It was wrong of him to cut Dean out when he went to Stanford. But he’s changed so much since then.

          • Sara

            Heh. Tell that to Dean after he learns how quickly Sam wrote him off as dead this time, so that Sam could make yet another stab at being “normal” again.

        • samhasbeentohellandback

          Dean never bothered to pick up the phone. He didn’t try to stop John kicking Sam out of the house. He took John’s side.

          • Sara

            Dean asked Sam if he would have picked up the phone if Dean had called him and Sam said nothing, implying that Dean HAD tried, but even if Dean didn’t try, Sam still said nothing. It’s canon that Sam and John had a fight the night that John kicked Sam out-nothing else is known, so I’m not sure where the idea that Dean took John’s side came from or that Dean never tried to stop John from kicking Sam out. That’s all pure speculation.

          • Tina

            You need to watch the Pilot again. Sam was the first one asking about the phone and Dean replied “if I had called, would you have answered?” implying that he didn’t even try. Probably because he was sure that Sam wouldn’t have pick it up.
            Sam want to college to get away from hunting life. He was running away from John, not Dean. Even Dean told him later (in Scarecrow) that he was proud of him for being able to stand up against John. But when you hate the character so much, it’s natural to twist everything…

          • samhasbeentohellandback

            If, if, if. Dean never picked up the phone. He could have made the first move since Sam was the one kicked out. I know that scene and Sam never had time to reply because Jess interrupted him. Dean was always taking John’s side in S1.

  • Ami

    You know, I don’t think this makes either Sam OR Dean look bad. It simply goes back to them having different views on how they should be living their lives. That’s all. They’ve kind of always been at odds in this way, and I’m really not at all surprised. But I’m sure everything will be resolved by the end of the season. And I’m also INCREDIBLY excited to have our angelic assbutt back. :)

    • Beth

      The switch between their perspectives has always been a really interesting dynamic in the show. :) I’m excited to see how the brothers work it out. And I’m so excited to have Cas back, I can’t even tell you how much. Favorite character ever, our assbutt.

  • sam

    I honestly don’t think that Sam is leaving the hunter life, he might try and might want to, but I don’t think it will happen. Jensen said that Dean tries and pushes Sam back in to the hunting life slowly. So I am not freting about that. If Sam does life a normal life and away from Dean, then I won’t be watching, but I don’t think Sam is leaving. We just see through out the season or half the season of how Sam got accustomed to the normal life so it’s easy to understand him not wanting to leave that since he has always wanted it. We shall see how it plays out.

    • Percysowner

      Of course Sam won’t leave the hunting life, at least not unless they have decided to write him out. The entire show is about them hunting. That is what frustrates me the most about this. Any desire that Sam may have to have a normal life will eventually have to be wrong, wrong, wrong or there is no show with Sam as a character. So the writers are going to great lengths to trash Sam, make him the bad, selfish, unloving brother. I’ll give it a chance, but I am so sick of Dean the perfect and Sam the evil.

      • Beth

        And I am sick of this mindset. No one should see Sam’s desire to live a normal life as wrong. Especially not Sam fans, who should know that’s been his dream since childhood. No, they’ll show the brothers growing together precisely because of this kind of miscommunication. Dean will learn to understand and accept, and Sam will willingly end up laying down that life he’s longed for because he’ll always ultimately choose Dean. And maybe he’ll be able to bring Amelia into the life with him, and successfully have a hunter family. Who knows. The road is wide open.

        • Sally

          I hope you are right Beth but Sam doesnt have the good will Dean has . The show does have a history of damaging the character when not necessary and the simple fact is Sam wanting out of hunting although one you can’t blame him for is a story that will not get very far and I am just worried that past mistakes with him will be repeated.Reading comments here with no disrespect to those people we are already getting Castiel cares more and done more and Sam is selfish .It goes over and over again in some way every season.

          I love the idea of Sam having some one outside of Dean maybe someone to open Sam up more I am just not sure the way they may go about it will again make Sam look selfish and wrong and he doesnt need all that again.

      • roxi

        Percyowner, when the heck has Dean ever been made to look perfect? All wev’e ever heard on this show is how weak Dean is, how much better Sam is, how Sam’s more important than Dean. In my view, the writers have always favored Sam and Dean gets the short end of the stick. I know you disagree, and I love Sam too, but come on.

  • Beth

    This sounds HORRID. Absolutely HORRIBLE. Oh Jared. Stop talking. They really shouldn’t allow him to do these interviews, no good ever comes from it. I think its time to let the show die and put it out of its misery. These are not the two brothers who had me tuning in week after week. I no longer recognize these characters or this show. Awful.

    • Beth

      I’m really upset that we share the same nickname here, since our viewpoints are so diametrically opposed. I loved this interview, and I feel more and more excited for the new season, the more I hear. I’ll be tuning in every week, with or without you.

      • Jay

        Beth, are you working for the CW? Because you have been in this freaking article answering every comment with your Pollyanna nonsense for hours apparently. If people want to share their disappointment, then LET THEM instead of replying to every single person.

        • Beth

          Not the CW, the CIA! (I’m just kidding, I’m a university student.)
          I have a right to respond, since this is a public forum that was designed for discussion. That little ‘reply’ button is there for a reason. And I’m an advocate for countering negativity (like ‘let the show die’, wow okay, harsh) with positivity, where I can. I haven’t replied to every comment, and a lot of my replies are actually in agreement with the original poster that I’m replying to, not arguing with them — or carrying on a discussion with the people who hold different viewpoints. But you know what, even if I did reply to every post, that’s my right. :) You don’t like my opinion? That’s okay. That’s your right. All good.

          • Beth

            *You’re* disappointed that you share my nickname? Honey, I wish that I could muster up enough to care about your disappointment or the fact that you are unhappy with my post, but as *you* just said above, it is everyone’s right to give their opinion, and I did just that. Feel free to skip over it if you don’t agree with it.

          • Beth

            Ah, yeah, you’re right, that was too strongly worded. I didn’t want to be confused with you, is all. You have a right to your opinion. :) We disagree, that’s all.

  • Erica

    This sounds amazing. Jared just made Sam sound so…HUMAN! My God, I can’t wait to see this side of him. Character growth! Plot! YES! :D

  • aurens66

    As a new SPN fan (watched seasons 1-7 all in one go) I’m really excited about the direction of the new season (and I get to watch as it happens!) I’m a big Dean fan, so I like the idea of him pairing up with a monster as an ally because with his history, we’d never expect that.

    I enjoy Sam’s storyline as a foil to Dean’s, and if there is some conflict between the brothers it should be developed with a sense of their shared history ie: Sam always wanted a normal life, but I’d like to think of an eventual hopeful ending (after we get our 10 seasons) that there is a chance to lock the monsters (and maybe even angels) away so that Sam and Dean they can live in a world truly directed by free will.

    Dean, what can I say about Dean, I love this character for his big heart and his endearing flaws, I’m certain that Jensen will chomp at the bit to let Dean take on new challenges, at the end of season five, he was willing to let Sam grow up and have their relationship evolve, and while Jensen has always said that he expects the Winchesters to go down swinging, I wouldn’t mind a future where (if there are still monsters on Earth) Dean can train new hunters.

    And I need more Castiel, who until now, has had his storyline revolve around the brothers (and necessarily so) but I’d like to see him find who he is without the brothers, so his relationship to them in future isn’t about how he can help them with the use of angelic powers, but how they interact with him as part of their Family.

    And if we have a list of who we’d like to see again: Bobby, Gabriel, Balthazar, Meg, Inais, Charlie, Garth, and more than a few episodes with Kevin and his mum!

  • Beth

    Dean did the same thing, at Sam’s request. Castiel is the reason Sam is top-side and alive to have a relationship with Amelia. Dean couldn’t have raised Sam from the cage. There was nothing he could have done. Just like there’s nothing Sam could have done, even if he’d known Dean was alive in Purgatory.
    Dean does need to mature in this respect, and that’s okay. All the best characters have flaws.
    Sam needs to show his brother emotional support, including understanding why he’s angry Sam didn’t look for him (but I trust that Sam will give him emotional support, he’s pretty good at that!). Everyone has a role to play, in order for their relationship to progress.
    I don’t blame Dean for spending a year with Lisa, and I don’t blame Sam for spending a year with Amelia. They were both just trying to survive the death of their only family.

    • Sasha

      I think Dean will not be so keen to get in any kind of sharing and caring mood about Purgatory. Which I both understand and think is growth. I mean, nearly every time he opens up emotionally, he ends up ultimately being humiliated for it, either with a boohoo speech right away or one later down the road so he`d be crazy not to learn from that.

      Cas has been the only exception to that but otherwise, if he doesn`t wanna be called weak, stupid or whiny to his face (or behind his back) again, he should keep his mouth shut. Emotional support is overrated under these circumstances.

      • Beth

        I sincerely hope you’re kidding. Emotional maturity is him being able to talk about it, at all. Why would you want him to shut up, that’s so unhealthy. That’s exactly the kind of bad advice that gives people mental breakdowns. Sam always encourages Dean to share, and then sticks with him afterwards. He may not always know what’s the right thing to say to Dean, but the fact that he listens and cares, is hugely important, especially to Dean. Cas is really great for that too, but Dean won’t have Cas at the beginning of this season. So it will be up to Sam to help him through his PTSD as best he can. That’s not a negative thing, not at all. Dean is brave; he deserves to have people he can lean on safely.

        • Sasha

          I`m not kidding at all. If I never hear another “boohoo” speech again, it will be too soon. And since that is nearly always the answer when Dean opens up about something, he should just not do it. It never helps him, this myth about it being just the right kind of “tough love” the character needs is just as obnoxious to me as watching it play out onscreen.

          Sure, in theory Dean deserves people to lean on. But if the narrative unfailingly (and the characters within it) calls him a whiny loser for being emotionally vulnerable, then I prefer he is not being vulnerable. Repressing everything might be unhealthy but to me it would be ten times worse to put myself out there and then be called weak for it.

          That`s like Charlie Brown always trying to kick that ball Lucy is holding.

        • Beth

          My response to that is three-part.
          First, when was the last time Sam shamed Dean for expressing his emotions? When? Tell me.
          Second, Dean shouldn’t evaluate himself by others opinions, that’s another sign of maturity. Expressing yourself and accepting the whiplash for what it is, without letting it define you or stop you. Hopefully one day Dean will learn how to stop repressing. So far, though, Sam’s been instrumental in helping him truthfully confront his feelings. Dean doesn’t always want to talk with Sam about what’s eating him, because as I said before, Sam is his moral compass, and he doesn’t want Sam to be ashamed of him. But that’s Dean’s problem, not Sam’s. Sam accepts Dean, for the most part, for who he is. He’s always a lot more interested in how to fix Dean’s problems than he is about whether or not Dean’s emotions themselves are wrong.
          Third, did I ever say that people showing Dean ‘tough love’ and telling him to suck it up was right? No. So stop implicating me in that argument, it’s not mine. As I said above, that kind of machismo is unhealthy and leads to mental breakdowns.
          Character growth for Dean will come through revelation and honesty. Just watch.

        • Sasha

          For some reason I can`t reply to the comment further down but just a quick point. We have simply vastly different opinion about the characters. I have not seen Sam as Dean`s moral compass ever. And I do believe for the most part Dean does pretty well with morality. He falters sometimes but his gut instincts ain`t that bad.

          Meanwhile Sam is not the most perfect, most mature, most wonderful person in my eyes. And the Dean you describe just comes across to me as some mess who is deeply inferior to both Sam and Cas and needs all the growing up to do while either of them needs none and has no flaws left.

          Dean is my fave, I admit that. And Cas my second-fave and I hope they mend fences somewhat. I`ve been put off the brother`s relationship too badly by anything from mid-Season 5 to now so it`s just a thing for me in the show that is there now. I do hope Carver will be fair to all characters this Season. And that Dean gets a kickass storyline centered on him for a change. If that plays out, I`m good and good at ignoring those parts that are no longer my thing.

        • Sara

          Oh and sorry, I don’t think we’ve seen Sam as Dean’s moral compass since Croatoan. I think it’s actually and predominantly been the other way around since then. Unless, the writers need Sam to be right about something, then they just have all the other characters jump through hoops to make it happen.

          I sure hope Carver doesn’t repeat that kind of nonsense with this sl. I’m willing to give him the season to prove that he won’t.

      • Sara

        He does. He has Cas, who, IMO, is better than Sam at that-at least where it concerns his brother.

        • Beth

          Not better, necessarily, but different. They both provide emotional stability to Dean. Cas is great for listening and not rendering judgement on Dean (like in On the Head of a Pin). But Sam serves as Dean’s moral compass. Dean needs both, to be honest. But Cas isn’t there at the beginning of the season, so I’m looking forward to Sam talking issues through with Dean (which will be how we get flashbacks, anyway).

        • Hutchinson

          To Beth: My first name is the same as yours so I’m using my last name to avoid confusion. First of all, thank you for your comments. In my opinion, you personify the kind of fan that all of us should be. Loyal, patient, non-judgmental, non-whiny and willing to follow the show without screaming when/if it doesn’t go the way fans “think” it “should.”

          As for me, I have a soft spot for Sam, but Dean and Castiel are remarkable characters as well and I look forward to wherever Carver and the writers take their stories. From all I’ve read, it sounds like Season 8 is going to be a turning point for all 3. I’m looking forward to seeing Sam’s romantic side, Dean’s new clarity and focus and Castiel…well, whatever happens with him! I’m also excited about Kevin and his mom, and the new vampire, Benny. Exciting! :)

        • Sara

          Cas IS better at helping Dean feel better about himself mainly because he doesn’t make him feel worse. Sam does. IMO.
          The brothers, as they have been written since S5, simply can’t connect at all with each other and they certainly don’t “click” for me any longer.

        • Beth

          Thanks, Hutchinson, I really appreciate that. I know I don’t always manage to convey my love for all the characters that well, but I do really love this show. I’m so glad I get to be a part of it, and interact with other great fans like you. And I think it’s shaping up to be a really great season, too. :)

        • Nic

          Sara, I think you should watch “Point of No Return” again. Who was the one to believe and trust Dean 100%?

        • Sara

          PONR told *me* that Sam only believes in and trusts Dean when Dean stays in the little box that Sam likes him to be/stay in-that of being All About Baby Bro. I’m ready for Dean to move on from what at this point seems to me to be an utterly thankless and stifling role for Dean. To me, and up to this point in the story, Sam rarely seems to truly appreciate Dean’s company and presence, except, of course, when he(Sam)is in dire need of it.
          It wouldn’t be that hard for the writers to change this perception, though, and I’m willing to give Carver the chance.

        • Tina

          Like Nick said, you need to watch a lot of episodes (Pilot, PONR and I guess lots of others). But you’re a Sam hater, so no matter what, you’ll always hate Sam. Even when it’s more than obvious that Sam cares about his brother, you’ll always find a way to twist things and make it sound like whatever Sam does he does it for himself. Pathetic…
          I love watching both boys doing everything for each other. I’m glad I love both brothers, because I really can enjoy the show! You should try it too!

        • Sara

          The writers are writing him as self-centered and self-involved and trying to sell it to us as more “mature”-some are buying what they’re trying to sell and some aren’t. For me, it would go a hell of long way towards fixing the Sam character, and truly making him more “mature” if they would just have him admit and own up to the fact that he’s self-centered, at times. But they never will because they refuse to see that they HAVE written him that way. And this is the biggest reason that I know of as to why so many have given up on watching mainly for the brothers. And I’m sorry, but JP’s interviews and his take on things since Comic Con have only made matters worse for his character, IMO. How many times did he say/imply in this interview that with Dean gone he now had no one holding him down or keeping him stuck or anchored down in the hunting life, as if Dean was nothing but an inconvenience and bother in his life who only ever kept him from having his dream life of “normal”. If this is going to be Carver’s idea of “maturity”, I’m afraid he’s going to get a fail from many in the fandom on it. Luckily(and this was smart of him, IMO), he’s also decided to give us other things and people on this show to watch and for them to interact with, just in case what he’s trying to sell concerning the brothers isn’t to one’s liking. Good for him for that, at least, because that’s something that, IMO, Gamble simply refused to budge on-until it was too late.

      • samhasbeentohellandback

        I’m positive Cas called Dean a weak puny human. For me, I get bored when Dean shares his feelings and sheds his one single teardrop of man angst. I prefer Dean keeps his feelings to himself. Not interested.

        • roxi

          Um, Dean NEVER tries to share his feelings unless he is pushed to! And even after that, he gets called names like you just did, and ‘boo hoo princess’ and always gets put down! Geez, WHAT show are YOU watching? Cause it sure as hell can’t be SPN!

        • roxi

          Dean has NEVER tried to share his feelings unless he was pushed into by Sam or someone else! And whenever he does, he gats putdown like you just did, by Bobby, hell, by Frank, hell, even by E

        • roxi

          Dean has NEVER tried to share his feelings unless he was pushed into by Sam or someone else! And whenever he does, he gets putdown like you just did, by Bobby, by Frank, hell, even by Elliot Ness! Dean always tries to BURY his feelings! And then he gets’ Boo Hoo Princess, suck it up!” Geez, what show are you watching? Cause it sure as hell can’t be SPN!

        • roxi

          Damn, my bloody computer! Sorry everyone for the extra posts.

    • Nic

      No, Dean didn’t do the same thing. He didn’t stop looking and, at the end of the day, it was him who pulled the important part of Sam – his soul – out of the cage.

    • roxi

      No Beth, Dean didn’t do the same thing. He went to Lisa yes, but he didn’t stop trying to find a way to save Sam.

  • http://livejornal sonyama

    It’s just a, love and hate story always go together

  • Dot

    I really hope season 8 is going to let Sam be Sam and not cloud his issues behind Something Wrong With Sam–a supernatural explanation for a complicated situation. What I’d love to see is a more grounded exploration of Sam pov and these spoilers sound like they might deliver. The show’s not going to stop being the Sam and Dean show, and I’m intrigued at the conflict hinted at here, where Sam and Dean are together, and united, but have differences of opinion and clashes. It doesn’t mean they’ll stop watching each other’s backs, it doesn’t mean their bond won’t become even stronger. But characters need to grow and develop. It’ll probably be angsty but it doesn’t sound like Sam and Dean distanced and separated either.

    I’m curious to see how Sam’s relationship with Amelia plays (and I hope she doesn’t get spit out the revolving door of SPN supporting characters, especially female characters and *especially* any love interests).

    The Castiel spoilers are sooo tantalizing and they won’t tell us more aaarggghhh. Okay yes I’m maybe a little anxious about Castiel, but his spoilers sound good and I’m overjoyed he has a crucial role to play in season 8 and he’s still a part of SPN–may he stay for a long time. \o/

  • Sarah

    Please,can we get some positive comments here?
    If you like the show,you like Cas.
    If you don’t…Sucks to be you.

  • Alix

    I’m excited for this whole season! I hope everyone get their own interesting story arcs to play out, and that seems to be the case! I’m excited for Dean’s interactions with Benny, for Sam’s struggle between the normal life he’s built with Amelia & the hunter life, and for Cas’ own personal growth. I love all the characters and the whole cast! I hope the negativity being shouted (very loudly) by some people doesn’t overcome all the excitement that a lot of us feel! CAN’T WAIT FOR THE NEW SEASON!

  • Elisa

    i love how Jared sound happy and hopeful, i was sceptical but now i am really curious about Sam’s relationship with Amelia, i didn’t have empathy or interest for Sam storyline since season 5 finale, and now i think i am going to love it. And about Cas..i really hope we will have him back for more episode..and that they have a plan for him, i really want Dean and him to fix their relationship as well, i miss the dean/cas of season 5, when there were still an apocalypse to fight but they had their good moments..i get the angst is necessary in the narrative but in this show we need more comfort now..we get two whole seasons full of angst and pain..i hope this will change, anyway i am excited about everything this year! :D

  • Kandace

    I, for one, am extremely excited to see how Sam’s storyline plays out. A lot of people seem to be hating this Amelia character already just for the mere fact that she’s with Sam (see: “she gets in the way of my ship!!!”), but I’m looking forward to what is hopefully a well written, strong female character. She must be pretty amazing to have Sam fall for her and want to settle down, and I think he deserves to get what he wants for a change. We know he’ll go back to hunting, anyway, but I like that they’re going to explore another aspect of him this season. It seems like all we get anymore is trying to figure out what’s wrong with him each season, I think it’s good to give his character a chance to expand. Basically, happy Sammy = happy me.

    Also excited to see Castiel back a bit more fully this season, very curious about his storyline since they seem so keen in keeping it under wraps! And it’s killing me wondering what kind of effect Purgatory had on Dean.

  • Key

    I’m really excited for Season 8. I think it’s about time each character branches out and has his own personal storyline, and with the flashbacks of Purgatory and Sam’s new life, I think that is what we’ll get here. I can’t wait to see what happens with Dean and Castiel in Purgatory, and where they’ll go with Castiel’s issues. I’m sure this season is going to be a great one! :’)

  • Amanda

    I am super excited to hear all about the boys adventure this season- they have all come so far! I hope they close the gates of Hell and manage to live a happier life!

    Kudos to Sam for finding someone!

  • lisa

    super excited for season 8! guys calm down you havn’t even seen season 8 yet stop hating on the storyline already.. im so excited that cas seems to have a huge part to play this season! i cannot wait! also excited for what dean’s keeping from sam.. and i think im going to love sam and amelia!

  • taylor ohr

    I’m so excited for this season. Everything I’ve heard sounds amazing and I’m looking forward to see how Carver does as showrunner!

  • http://sdadfdh jen

    I think this seems fantastic! I wont judge amelia until I see her, and I don’t think anyone els should either. a lot of the females character on this show has been treated awfully by the fans, and it’s a disgrace. it’s fine to dislike, even really really dislike a character, as long as you don’t take it out over the actress. and when it comes to a character you haven’t even met, it’s not acceptable at all. be open-minded. yes, she might not be a good character in your eyes even then, but she could also be a brilliant one. as it goes for cas, I think the direction they’re taking him is great, I just hope he’ll forgive himself for what he did, since everyone els already has.

  • Jess

    i can’t wait til Wednesday. super stoked about this season, way more stoked than i felt last year. Cas, Dean’s character growth, Dean and Cas in purgatory, Benny’s role, Sam’s storyline, and with his new girl Amelia. i’m very optimistic with this season

  • Alan

    CAN’T WAIT FOR SEASON GR8!!!!

  • Poonam K.

    I’m very excited for this new season! It sounds like it will be presented in a completely different manner, and of course with completely different situations. As this show progresses, it becomes more and more.. uh.. not sure how to word it haha, basically more deep.. From hunting monsters to the importance of relationships. I love every second of this show even though it takes my heart, chews it up, and spits it back out haha. But I’m going to stick with it to the end!

  • Jenny

    Man, I feel bad for Sam here. I got a nose for these kind of things and this really looks like its going to be one of those ‘every time I thought I was out, they pulled me back in’ things for Sam this season. Where like Sam’s going to start out all happy and well adjusted and this season is just going to run him ragged with every reminder of his ‘freakhood’ and how he is cursed and can never be normal or happy, etc. Damn Sammy, sorry about your luck. I hope they don’t kill your dog.

    I’m curious about what they are going to do with Cas, and the purgatory/Benny situation sounds cool. I’m also happy about more Crowley and Kevin Tran. Basically happy all around, honestly.

    • Melanie

      Jenny – Reading the comments was kinda depressing me — but then I read yours. Thank you!
      I’m with you — it feels like a set up for a fall to me too. I kinda think that Amelia’s wearing a red shirt but I hope the dog survives . . . .

  • Riku

    I’m just love that Castiel is still with us in season 8!
    He’s brought a whole new dimension to Supernatural and helped make the characters even deeper than they already were. Perhaps it’s just how amazing actors Misha, Jensen and Jared are, but there surely seems to be very profound bonds between all of them.

    Also, I really hope Sam’ll have a happy relationship for more than two episodes.. He deserves it.

  • EmilyJane

    I’m really excited for Sam’s storyline with Amelia. It sounds intriguing, and I’m looking forward to seeing what she’s like and what kind of woman would be matched up with Sam. He deserves someone in his life, it’s been s long since he lost Jess :( And Madison, and even Ruby. Sam needs someone of his own. I hope so-called fans don’t ruin this storyline by complaining that giving Sam someone else in his life is “ruining” the show, and that it can only be “two brothers” to the exclusion of absolutely everyone else. Everyone knows Sam and Dean and their relationship is the core of the show, but the universe they live in has to contain other people or what’s the point of what they do? Saving people, hunting things is meaningless if there are no people in their lives to save. If you just want two brothers and nothing else, get out your season 1 DVDs and go nuts. I will stay here and eagerly await season 8. Because moving forward is a good thing, and I can’t wait to see where Jeremy Carver takes us.

  • kyra

    I personally cannot wait to see both Sam and Cas’ storylines played out this season! I love those characters and really hope to see interactions between both Sam, Cas, and Dean this year. They have a really wonderful dynamic together that I find adds a lot to the show. Thanks for the article!

  • kim

    i’m so excited for season 8! i love sam and dean and i’m excited to see their development, but i’m also super excited to see more of castiel! he’s my favorite character and i’m so happy that’s he’s going to be returning!

  • Amy J

    Very excited hearing about all the news concerning the different character’s experiences. Season 8 is going to be great! Team Free Will forever!
    (Also, loving that Sam finally has a new love interest :) )

  • vince

    I’m excited for this Sam storyline. I feel like this has always been a part of Sam’s character, wanting to define his own life for himself. It sounds like Amelia is a good character, as well; I love that they were both “misfits”. That likely means their connection is more genuine, and she may be more willing to put up with the hunting business than some girls were in the past.

    On a related note, I don’t know why anyone would think this has to mean Dean and Sam are not close or don’t care for each other. Of course they always will. They’re brothers. Dean practically raised Sam. They’re tied together for life. But siblings necessarily do have their own lives. It will be difficult, even painful, for Dean and Sam to have their own lives apart from each other–they’ve been attached at the hip their whole lives, raised in such isolation, and with “protect your brother” constantly pounded in Dean’s head–but I think it will one day be necessary for them. For their own sanity. Their own development and growth as people. Like it or not, they’re individuals.

    On the Cas front, like everyone I am itching to find out what’s going on, because we’ve been given so few details. I love the idea that Purgatory is a place for Cas to repent for what he has done; his “sins”. I figured that Cas, in Purgatory–which has been said to be like Hell for angels–would feel that he deserved nothing less.

    As for the fandom, that is more complicated. I don’t quite understand why the Sam and Dean fans would be threatened. Sam is in every episode, and probably always will be. Of the first 8, Cas is in 4 — that’s half. That’s not a ton. I’m not suggesting he should be in more, I’m pointing out the fact that Sam always has been and always will be one of two main men on this show. Even if Misha Collins is considered a star of the show as well, he’s only one of three, and whether fans like it or not the show is about two brothers. However, it is very backwards to think that that is the only thing the show can be about. Since when can you not love your brother and a girl, or love your brother and have a best friend? There are different types of relationships!

    I imagine a lot of people will claim that I am a “Cas lover” or something, which is very true, but I loved Sam and Dean way before I loved Cas. I sit back and thoroughly enjoy episodes with just the brothers on the road, and I love to look back to early seasons for a dose of this. Dean is my favourite character, if I had to pick one, but Sam is utterly essential. I would have a very hard time wrapping my head around the show without Sam, if it were possible at all. Luckily that will never become a reality. Never.

    So everyone should calm down. We’re going to get more Cas, and we’re going to get more Sam. And it looks like Dean is in for some great stuff as well. The last thing they’re going to do is toss Sam away, or disrespect Jared in any way (why would they do that? The cast is all very close and Jared is very much loved!), and at the same time we’re going to be seeing more of Cas than last season, so to me this seems like a very good balance.

    I for one love the show and can’t wait.

    • Emma

      I really enjoyed your post and agree with all of it. I love all of them, and am happy to see more Cas in Season 8 and find out about Purgatory too. I am also thrilled about the new recurring characters we will be getting, its been getting a bit bleak and it feels like the show is rejuvenating itself with more thoughtful story lines, a great new quest and new familiar faces.

    • Beth

      Good post, Vince!

  • Emma

    I want to hug Jared. I have been so excited about Sam’s story line in Season 8 and had to deal with outcries of him being OOC and the spoilers being awful and I was all, yay, back to the Sam I met in Season One! Finally a Sam free of influence allowed to just be Sam. I am happy that Jared’s insight into Sam matches my own thoughts on the character, and feel like we will get great character development across the board in Season 8. I am also happy about Amelia, a love interest long overdue IMO;Sam has always held himself back and now he hasn’t had to-seeing the fall out of his “settling down” year when Dean gets back is going to be fascinating and at long last explore the glaringly obvious differences between the two brothers-that they both view Hunting entirely differently yet still both get on with doing what they must-one because he feels it his job, one because he won’t leave his brother to go it alone. That strengthens the brothers bond and I am looking forward to a more mature connection between them that respects their individual takes on the Family Business.

  • Amelia

    Really excited about more Castiel!! Hopefully he’s not gonna get the same horrible treatment he did in the previous seasons, huh? I mean, you kind of have to keep him out of commission, but…you know.
    I’m a little apprehensive about this whole Sam and Amelia thing, but I think I can give Carver & Edlund the benefit of the doubt. The Winchesters have never really had good relationships outside of themselves, but maybe things could change?
    Or Amelia could die, I guess. :c It would be nice to have a female character along for a little longer, though.

  • Kay

    All the accolades to Jeremy Carver already. I am just so happy that we fans are talking, agreeing, arguing, about storylines for ALL the characters, Dean, Sam, Cas (even though the details of his story are very sketchy as of now), and these storylines all appear to be distinct. Not like one character has a storyline and another just plays supporting character to that story whereas a third may have his storyline play entirely off-camera till a sudden appearance at the last moment. Whether we ultimately enjoy Dean’s Purgatory story, Sam’s Amelia story, Cas’ story, and the present-day quest story with Crowley and Kevin, I am completely bowled over by the abundance of STORY! This is so unlike the past few seasons when there was little to talk about and the writers had seemed to run out of ideas.

    • Beth

      Yeah, good points!

  • suzy

    At the end of season 5 Sam asked Dean to go to Lisa and try to find some happiness. He wanted Dean to move on and be OK. He wanted what was best for Dean.

    Flash forward to now and we have a Dean who seems like he is going to be pissed at Sam for essentially taking his own advice and doing what every other person on earth has to do when they lose a loved one. And this is after the last 7 years when the writers have said over and over again that messing with this stuff is BAD. Why would Dean want Sam to be miserable? Why does he seem to not really give a darn about what Sam wants? He’s found his purpose in hunting, which is fantastic. I have missed that Dean with a vengeance. But that doesn’t give him the right to demand that Sam feel the same way.

    • roxi

      Um, where were you people at the beginning of season 6 where it was made perfectly CLEAR that Dean, DID INDEED grieve for Sam and do EVERYTHING he could to save him? Where do you get this’Dean didn’t look for Sam’ crap? And no, that doesn’t make me a Sam hater, but you sure do seem like Dean haters.

      • TVHolic

        They were too busy whining about Sam missing for half a season to notice the guy desperately trying to figure out how to get their Sam back. Then once he did, they were busy calling him a rapist for not getting the soulless guy’s consent to bring his brother back.

        But you know what? Apparently now, that is a sign of Dean’s deep immaturity according to Mr. Padalecki and his fans.

        • Sara

          This is really it, isn’t it? He was never my favorite, but I honestly never disliked Sam until S5 when, IMO, the writing just went off the deep end in trying to fix the mess they made of Sam’s character in S4 at the expense of every other character on the show; and it became worse in S6 and 7. I hope Carver can remedy this some before the show goes off the air, so that it might go out on a high note, instead of the mess that it’s become in the last two and a half seasons.

    • Beth

      I don’t at all think Dean wanted Sam to be miserable. But I think in a previous spoiler it talked about Dean having conflicting emotions of pride and resentment, because Sam stopped looking for him. Dean’s anger isn’t necessarily justified or right, it’s just human. Sam was probably the thought that kept him going in Purgatory, like a soldier thinking of his family back home during war. To find that Sam had moved on because he thought Dean was dead was a blow, that’s all. Neither brother is at fault, here.

    • Sara

      I think Sam wanted Dean to do what SAM would have wanted to do when he made Dean promise to go to Lisa. Dean wasn’t true to himself when he went to her, IMO; but he was broken, and at the time, he couldn’t think straight and a promise made to family over-rode everything else for him, so he went to her and found some little peace while grieving for Sam, but Dean wasn’t happy not hunting-that was clear even to Lisa. He was missed the hunt. And here is the big difference-he exhausted every avenue in trying to find a way to get Sam back before he even started the grieving process. This is not what JP is saying that Sam did. He’s saying that as soon as he felt that he was all alone(which he really wasn’t-Garth and the lady sheriff were out there), Sam chose to go all out for his dream of “normal”, instead. And he didn’t only leave Dean in the lurch. He left Kevin, too. But I’m sure Kevin won’t mind. It’s only Dean who will be portrayed by the writers as being inappropriately and incorrectly hurt or angered by this kind of thing. Sheesh. How childish of Dean to expect Sam to look for him as hard as he had looked for Sam.

  • Louise

    “Beth says,

    Dean did the same thing, at Sam’s request. Castiel is the reason Sam is top-side and alive to have a relationship with Amelia. Dean couldn’t have raised Sam from the cage. There was nothing he could have done. Just like there’s nothing Sam could have done, even if he’d known Dean was alive in Purgatory.”

    Dean did try. He had hundreds of books and was always looking for a way. Yes, Cas got the meatsuit- out, but Dean went the distance and got the important part-Sam’s soul- back.

    Sam had options, he chose to not use them and Jared seems to have forgotten them. It doesn’t make Sam mature, it makes him selfish and uncaring when it comes to people such as Dean and Kevin who were depending on him for help.
    Miles vary.

    • Beth

      I am sure that they are going to show Sam doing his part to try and recover Dean — and, after deciding Dean was most likely dead, they’ll show his process of grief and recovery — during the flashbacks. Part of what’s building all this conflict and suspense is that it does seem so wrong for everything to be a-okay when Dean gets back. Because none of this is okay. But it’s not like Sam threw up his hands and skipped off merrily once Dean disappeared. If you think that, it’s discrediting the character.

      • Ally

        We’re just going from the spoilers so far, Beth. I wish that Sam tried to get Dean back, but it’s not what we’re reading so far at all.

      • Louise

        “But here Sam’s like ‘I was in a room, Roman vanished, Castiel vanished, Kevin Tran is gone.  I have no Bobby, I have no Misha, I have nothing.  I’m going to take off the hunter garb and just live a normal life because I have nothing tying me back.  There’s absolutely nothing holding him”

        This is what Jared said and there is no mention, not even an insinuation ,that Sam made any effort whatsoever to look for either Dean or Kevin. So, to me it very much looks like Sam went merrily skipping on his way without giving his brother’s fate a second thought. Shirking one’s obligations in this kind of circumstance is not mature or adult behaviour, it’s selfish, thoughtless and immature.
        If Sam was still looking, if he’d exhausted every resource he had left (and we’ve been told ad nauseum Sam’s supposed to be a very smart, resourceful guy) then sure, let him be satisifed with his efforts and move on with his life. I wouldn’t hold it against him and neither would Dean.
        Good thing Dean didn’t give up on him so easily or he’d still be in the pit, being tag-teamed by two very bored arc-angels. I’m just sorry Dean is related to this guy.

        But you know what? Let Sam have this insipid storyline. I’m only interested in the action, the thrills and the gore and I can easily fast forward through Sam’s “storyline” to get to the good stuff invovling Dean and Castiel.

        • Beth

          Just because Jared didn’t make a special effort to specify that Sam absolutely exhausted the means at his disposal, doesn’t mean we need to ignore years of character development and just believe Sam dusted the guilt off his hands and went his marry way — and then be angry about it. I firmly believe Carver and the writing team are better story tellers than that. And I believe Sam is a better person than that. I adamantly believe that he would only stop looking, start grieving, and move on to a new life because he was convinced Dean was dead. It doesn’t matter that he was mistaken. He couldn’t have known. Have a little trust: Jared is very invested in the brothers’ relationship, and he seems really happy with how the story is unfolding, despite his initial misgivings. Maybe we should give the new season a few episodes to play out, before jumping down anyone’s throat?

        • samhasbeentohellandback

          Sam will be part of the action and gore. He always is. He’ll play a big part and save Dean from Benny. So there won’t be anything to fast forward to.

  • Jo

    Oh, Sammy… What are they doing to you? :(

  • Mar

    Am I the only one creeped out that Jared’s words about Sam’s feelings for Dean “I don’t need you.” echoes what John/YED said to Dean in “Devil’s Trap?” “You fight and you fight for this family, but they don’t need you. Not like you need them…”

    Sad.

    • Nic

      Sad indeed. To think I thought he was lying back then…

      • TVHolic

        IKR?

    • FB

      sad indeed as well

    • Sara

      Guh. This post was just a gut-punch. Poor Dean. I can still see his face in so clearly in that scene… :-(

  • Mia

    Sam:

    “Oh, Dean vanished… Maybe he’s dead?” *Sad face, thinks over* “Oh, wait… Hell, yeah, he must be dead. I’m free from Dean! YAY, I can live a normal life now!” *Goes off to live a normal life and is very, very happy*

    *Dean comes back*

    “Damn, you’re alive… Ok, I’ll help you, but once it’s done, I’m out. I don’t care. I can’t wait to have Amelia again! Get out of my way, errr… What’s your name again?

    • Beth

      I assume you’re being facetious? Because that’s wildly out of character. Sam didn’t have it easy this past year, I’d bet money on it. The entire reason Sam bonds with Amelia (purportedly) is that they’re both grieving, broken people, going through loss simultaneously. Sam wasn’t happy Dean was gone. But he thought he was dead. Is he not allowed to try and heal? Since when does a family member dying mean you can never be whole or happy ever again?

      • FB

        I HOPE that’s what they’re gonna show us, I mean Sam trying to heal, but how Jared puts it it really seems like the distorted gag above here :(

    • mobydick

      Dean: Sam’s back from the hell cage. Bye, Sam, see you. I’d rather stay with Lisa and Ben. Best year of my life with my brother dead and all. Send me a postcard!

      • roxi

        Are you freakin kidding me Moby? That is not what Dean did at all! Dean tried e verything he could to save Sam! Did you even watch season 6? The only reason Dean chose to stay with Lisa and Ben was because he brought this danger to them, he felt he should protect them. His motives were NEVER selfish, and he wanted to go with Sam as soon as he saw him! Wow.

  • FB

    I’m a bro fan and I’m picking my pitchfork, lol, not because Sam wants a normal life, which I thought he gave up on a long time ago, but we’ll see how they develop that, and might be a new thing to explore for a character who has seen everything and done everything under the sun, and over the sun, and under the earth and … yeah .. you know what I mean. My issues are when Jared describes how Sam simply turn his back on Dean, because he now does not have anything HOLDING HIM BACK from going and live a normal life. I mean .. that seems like *his brother* was the thing holding him back, and now that Dean is gone Sam is finallt free. That’s just not right. And I’m SO not a Sam hater or anything. I love him, and I loved him even when he went down the wrong path .. hell, I loved him even more back then! That’s why I can’t really buy him dismissing Dean’s disappareance, and then Dean’s return like this. It breaks my heart really .. It’s not a special bond anymore if Sam moves on so easily, not knowing what happened to his brother, if he’s alive, if he’s dead, not even trying to bring him back or save him. That impetus Jared is talking about in the interview, that’s the engine of the show, you can’t take it away, or the show dies, and it doesn’t mean Sam is forbidden a normal life or the desire of it, it just means he’s not the Sam I know or want to know about anymore if he’s at peace with himself knowing he did nothing to save his brother from whatever evil was threatening him. Sam is *leaving his brother alone out there*. And that just does not sit right with this show. There is a quote from season 6 .. Lisa says “I love my sister, but if she died I would NOT try and bring her back”. Well .. if that’s what Sam is doing, and what the writers are trying to get when they say the Sam&Dean relationship is gonna mature, they may as well go for a Lisa and her sister spin off .. because if that’s also Sam&Dean’s case there’s nothing so special about the Winchesters and their bond anymore.

    • Nic

      I agree with you. It made it seems that Dean was just an inconvenience for Sam all along.

      This “moving on and being happy” without each other isn’t Supernatural for me. It’s just not the same show I fell in love with. It’s so sad.

    • Melanie

      “Sam is *leaving his brother alone out there*. And that just does not sit right with this show.”

      I couldn’t agree more. That’s why I’m really hoping that ‘things aren’t what they seem’ makes the fact that Sam apparently does just that – make sense.

      As far as Amelia goes — I’m glad she’s in the past — hope she stays there.

  • Bookkbaby

    So excited for this season! I admit, I was a bit worried when I found out they were just skipping ahead to Dean getting out of Purgatory, but there’ll be flashbacks and Cas and Dean and Sam all have storylines this year… it’ll be awesome!

    (I do wish we had more information about Cas, but I guess I’ll just have to wait until October 3rd. ^_^ Or October 10th, since that’s the first episode Cas is in.)

    Excited to meet Amelia too! We haven’t heard much, but she sounds promising!

    • Beth

      Book! (Hug.) I feel the same. I’m really excited to meet Amelia, because I’ve heard good things about her and her actress. I hope that’s a really fulfilling arc. :)

  • mobydick

    I’m glad Sam had the chance to move on with his own life and follow his dream. Dean should be glad for Sam’s sake. I hope Dean won’t try to make Sam feel guilty about giving up hunting. He’s always been a little judgmental of Sam’s choices.

    You can’t please Sam haters. If Sam had charged into purgatory and rescued Dean, they would have hated it just the same. Nothing Sam does is ever enough for them.

    • Ally

      I’m not a Sam hater by any means, but as a brotherly bond fan, I am upset at him for not even looking for Dean and for being so very, very happy during his absence. Not because I don’t think he doesn’t deserve it, because he does. But because this doesn’t sound like the show I love(d).

      • Sam and Dean Fan

        I could not agree with you more. And I’m not upset at Sam per se, but I AM (very) upset by the writers and producers taking the show in this direction. Sam being so dismissive of Dean, just walking away and not looking for him, not even trying, is completely out of character and a terrible departure from everything I know about their bond. And it sounds like Sam literally tells Dean that as soon as they accomplish this one goal, which Sam only does out of a sense of obligation, they’re done. And this after Dean spent a year in Purgatory going through bloody hell while Sam was off living his “normal” life.

        What happened to you and me against the world?

        It’s dreadful.

    • TVHolic

      Yes, I imagine Carver will be using the same Strawman argument to whitewash Sam. Make it about Dean dragging poor put-upon Sam back into hunting and playing dumb about the fact that Sam apparently decided to just give up on Dean because he saw the chance to live the life he always wanted as soon as his brother was out of the picture.

      Too bad for the writers, that some of us can actually remember 4 months into the past when Crowley practically told Sam where Dean was. Of course, he didn’t actually use the word purgatory so it’s probably incredibly unfair of us to expect Mr. Full-Ride-to-Stanford to be able to make the simple deduction that if stabbing Dick with the a weapon that has a major kick, sends him back to purgatory, that Dean and Cas might have been caught in the undertow.

      Or to remember that there are other hunters out there including Garth, that Sam still has access to Bobby’s photocpied library, the Campbell library and he knows how to summon angels, demons and Death himself, who has been willing to help the Winchesters on more than one occasion.

      But nope. The so-called brains of the operation can’t come up with any of this stuff apparently. Or he just didn’t want to. Which is fine, but then allow the character to be honest about it instead of applying the flimsy whitewash at the expense of other characters. I guarantee that a little emotional honesty about Sam would go much further in making the character more likable to me than all schmutz they have been pasting on him for the past three years.

      • mobydick

        But this would mean Sam gets to be badass and a hero for saving Dean and the Sam haters wouldn’t want that. Now Dean gets a whole year of quality time with dear Cas. I’m sure Dean and Destiel fans are happy.

        • effy

          Hmm, no, actually Destiel fans WERE happy about the Pugatory storyline because they thought that the extreme circumstances with no one to rely on but each other will give Dean and Cas a chance to resolve all the problems that were cumulating for the past two season and repair their friendship but then they added Benny to the equation and it seems like Dean spent more time bonding with Benny than he did with Cas and now Cas is apparently dead/stuck in Purgatory and Dean and Benny are BFFs so no, Destiel fans have nothing to be happy about.

      • Melanie

        The whole arguement that Sam had no resources and therefore no recourse but to ‘move on’ is the part of the Sam storyline that I don’t find credible at all. I’m hoping that this is where the whole ‘perception’ and ‘things not being as they seem’ Carver said comes in.
        Honestly a lot of it sounds like Jared rationalizing his character’s actions so he can play it and/or its what Sam tells Dean for some reason related to the twist.
        Or it could all just kinda suck that Sam didn’t even try to look for Dean. Cuz, I’m with Dean on this one — Sam, its ok to move on but AFTER you tried to find Dean.

    • roxi

      And I see it the other way Moby; for you Dean haters Sam can do no wrong and Dean can do no right.
      I love both brothers, tired of all the Dean hate. And really don’t understand the whole’Dean needs to mature’ thing. Really, the guy who practically raised his little brother since he was FOUR, and has looked out for him as his sole responsibility his whole life, HE needs to mature?
      At the same time I see nothing wrong in Sam wanting to have a life, I just wish Dean could have a real love story too, just once. But they never take the time to cast an actress with real chemistry or to write the scenes in a passionate way. And no, I refuse to believe it’s Jensen’s fault, they just need thw right actress and to write the scenes right and this gorgeous man would be steamy as hell. But of course they won’t. They even took away his one night stands. Only Sam gets any real romance.

      • mobydick

        I don’t hate Dean but I do feel Sam is wrong no matter what.
        Dean got a real romance in season six but Dean fans hated that storyline. Besides, a real girlfriend would interfere with his ‘profound bond’ with Castiel and Destiel fans would have cried foul.

        • TVHolic

          And Amelia will interfere with the Wincest fans fantasies — so what’s your point?

          For the record, I’m not a Destiel fan, though I do like their bromance and both characters individually. I feel that their friendship has been well-earned despite a few bumps in the road and isn’t just based on familial obligation and co-dependency.

        • roxi

          No, Lisa was not a real romance. We never saw any romantic side of that relationship like we always see whenever Sam gets a girl. Lisa was a promise that Dean made to Sam. And for the last time, Cas and Dean are NOT a couple!
          I know the SPN writers won’t ever give Dean/Jensen this so I won’t even bother hoping for it. Only Sam is a romantic ladies man to them. Forget the millions of us female fans who find Dean/Jensen attractive too. Who cares about us.

          • roxi

            Although I do believe Lisa loved him and he her in his own way, we were never shown the romantic, passionate side of their relationship. This is the thing I’m sure SPN writers will never allow Dean to show, yet they always show that side of Sam’s relationships. I don’t begrudge Sam of this, all I want is a little fairness towards Dean’s character as well.

  • TouchedByMisha

    Thanks for great article and tweets, Clarissa. I feel much better for season 8, more than any other time. :) Especially, I am excited that I can see Castiel more, that’s true. But I really love Jared’s face talk about Sam’s storyline. I wish Jared, Misha, and Jensen to give us great journey on season 8, and I believe. :) Oh, Jeremy Carver and Ben Edlund also.

    Just two more thing: I still terribly miss Bobby. I won’t care how ridiculous his back will be. I just miss Bobby the touchstone. Of course, Gabriel and Balthazar also. And… am I only one who worry about Meg? I want Meg to survive as the longest villain in Supernatural world. She is deserved to be. ;)

  • Kayla

    i think that sam sounds like he’s maturing. maybe a lot of you don’t like it, but codependence isn’t healthy and it’s great that sam’s learning how to be his own person and not completely melt down without his brother. it’s a sign of character development and maturity. it doesn’t mean he doesn’t love dean and miss him, but it does show that he’s growing.

    i hope can’t wait for cas’s storyline either. :) and dean’s of course – dean’s always gonna be my favorite. <3

  • deborah

    I think it’s wonderful we are receiving information and updates about Dean, Sam, and Castiel and I find it shameful that every time we get an article commenting on Castiel that the Castiel haters come out in full force. We are tired of you, haters. We are tired of your foolishness; your juvenile attitudes. Either grow up and act like adults or be silent. Stop giving “Supernatural” fandom a bad name because of your hatred. I, for one, love Dean, Sam, and Castiel and hope that Team Free Will, a term coined by Dean in “Song Remains the Same” to describe the trio, remains together in “Supernatural” until the very last episode of the series. I love the brotherly bond. I love Team Free Will. I love “Supernatural.” What I don’t love is the haters who insist upon trying to snipe and be generally nasty. Please, haters, go away.

  • suzy

    I’m thinking a rather large number of people need to learn the definition of “confirmation bias”. Confirmation bias refers to a type of selective thinking whereby one tends to notice and to look for what confirms one’s beliefs, and to ignore, not look for, or undervalue the relevance of what contradicts one’s beliefs. That definition is from the Skeptics Dictionary.

  • psyche

    I’m beyond stunned at how bad Sam’s new, more “adult” attitude sounds.

    The problem isn’t Amelia; in fact, I think it’s great that Sam found someone who makes him happy. And I agree that scaling back the co-dependence is a good thing. But there’s such a thing as a middle ground. To take Sam to this extreme, where he’s only deciding to help Dean out of obligation and self interest? Telling Dean he doesn’t need him, thanks for the memories, I’ve found a new life that makes me happier than hanging with you and I cant’ wait to get back to it asap? Okay then. That might be what happens in real life but it totally undercuts the entire premise of the show.

    Dean, honey, time for you to get with the program. Sam’s devotion to you is yesterday’s news. He’s moved on, making your relationship painfully lopsided. Sure, Sam loves you- in a “hey, why don’t you swing by when you’re in town” kind of way. Accept it and move on yourself. Leave Sam to his new life in suburbia and just go do what you gotta do. And don’t worry. If you die, Sam will be just fine. Heck, it might even be easier for him because then he’ll be freeeeee again.

    (Seriously, writers- WTH?)

    • FB

      THIS!
      And I cant really believe Carver would do that to the brothers.

  • Melanie

    I love how Jared is so committed to the character and the mindset that Sam ‘has’ to be in for this separation/opposition between the bros to work, but seriously, writers? There better be a twist. And as far as maturity and all that — well-adjusted, non-woobie Sam sounds kinda dull to me. We’ll see how it plays out.

  • Emma

    I am just so bummed by these spoilers.

    I have always loved SPN for the brother relationship. It is what grounded the show and has gave it heart for the first 5 seasons. Yeah, I have loved the spooks and the scares and the anthology but those are not the things that kept me tuning back in. It was the human element and the Sam and Dean-ness.

    I don’t need SPN to be laser-focused on the brother relationship – bring on all the Benny’s and Amelia’s. But it also just breaks my heart to see the what the writer’s are doing to the Sam and Dean characters. In Season 6, when Sam was trapped in his head, he literally fought through hell because he “wasn’t going to leave his brother out there.” What happened to that, Sam? Open up new relationships to the brothers, just don’t cheapen the one (the most important one) between the brothers.

    SPN is a show about 2 brothers driving around in their car hunting evil. Yes, shows and characters evolve, but I don’t want SPN to turn into a show I hardly recognize…where Sam and Dean have only a handful of scenes with each other and in those scenes they are either at odds with on another or talking about a case.

    • roxi

      And what happened to what Sam Wesson said in ‘It’s a Terrible Life’? When he said it seemed like hunting was in his blood? Now all of a sudden, Sam never wanted to be a hunter? Huh?
      I know it may seem like I don’t like Sam/Jared because I get so worked up over what I see as injustices toward Dean’s character, but that is not true. I love Sam. And I am disappointed in this spoiler simply because it sounds like they are making Sam into somebody he never was before, somebody who wasn’t all that emotional at finding his beloved brother alive after a year, somebody who seemed to be happy he was out of the way. That’s NOT Sam. Why Jared seems so pleased with this development disappoints me. Sure, it makes sense that he had to move on and wanted a little happiness but, I don’t know, it just seems that the way Jared is talking that Sam is not the same Sam who loved his brother and would do anything for him, you know, the Sam we all love.

      • FB

        That’s EXACTLY the point. It’s not about being a Sam hater, even if of course some of them are here as well, but there are Cas haters and Dean haters as well, easily recognizable among the others who just express their opinions and offer good insights and reasons for that .. it’s about worrying about a character we ALL love, who just seems to be going in a direction that clashes with what the show has always been about: family! Jared’s words make look Sam so out of character it’s not even funny. And I swear I love Jared with all my heart, but since ComicCon he’s raising some hell talking about season 8 and the brothers and the “new” Sam .. I’m beginning to think he’s trolling us all xD .. Jared I love you, don’t ever change, you naive adorable man, but please, stop talking spoilers about season 8, you making me nervous xD.

        • roxi

          I hope he is trolling. I really do. I can see him being excited about having a new story to sink into, but he knows as well as anyone what the real engine of the show is. It’s not that he couldn’t have a life while Dean was gone; it’s that he seems so damned HAPPY that that life DIDN’T include Dean! The man who loved him more than life, raised him since he was a small child himself, without thinking gave up his life and soul to save him, and gave up any hope for a life of his own because he considered looking out for Sam his number one priority. Heck, when Sam came back in season 6, Dean was ready to drop everything to go with him. Actually, as a Dean fan, I was disappointed in and pissed at Dean that he would so readily walk out on the woman who loved him and took him in with all his baggage. In the end, he did the right thing and stood by her to protect her which some on here put him down for( Dean is always wrong!). I’m not saying Sam should drop Amelia, just that he doesn’t seem all that eager to make room in his new life for his formerly beloved brother as well. And yes, this disappoints me. What disappoints me more is how happy Jared seems about it.
          They were like brothers off screen as well; did something happen between them to ruin their extremely close bond?

          • FB

            Jared’s words about Sam’s SL really have nothing to do with Jensen! He’s just talking about the show, nothing more. And I’m surprised as well he’s enjoying this new Sam, but it’s not like he could say “this sucks” anyway, does he? xD, so don’t try and read between the lines anything more than it is. The sole huge problem in all of this IMO is that Sam doesn’t seem to give two crap about trying to find his brother. That’s something I can’t or even wanna come to terms with.

    • mistymountain

      EXACTLY. I so agree with you. What are the writers doing??!! I am heartbroken and turned off. And the way Jared described Sam’s perspective was just awful.

  • roxi

    The other thing I am almost 85 percent certain will happen is that Dean’s Purgatory story arc will end up being more about Cas. I guess I’ll just have to wait and see and hope that Jeremy Carver will do right by all the characters. Now Cas fans, don’t get upset. I do want something good for Cas too, as well as Sam, not just Dean. All I want is a fair shake for Dean as well.

  • kaya

    I just want all three members of Team Free Will to be together and okay. I want them to care about each other the way they always have. I can’t believe that Sam would just give up on Dean and move on with his life and be happy about it and I can’t believe that Dean would ditch Cas to rot in Purgatory and become BFF with Benny instead. I love Cas, Dean and Sam and I’m excited that they all seem to have a storyline but I’m just worried that the show will loose it’s heart which for me has always been family that don’t end with blood. I hope that my misgivings will turn out to be unnecessary and everthing will be fine in the end. Anyway, I’ll give Carver the benefit of the doubt. Can’t wait for season gr8!