Comments on: An Open Letter to Joss Whedon

By: Dustin

Dustin — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:07:00 +0000

YES! on the Dr. Horrible TV show.

By: Dustin

Dustin — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:07:00 +0000

YES! on the Dr. Horrible TV show.

By: Giles(my real last n

Giles(my real last n — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:21:00 +0000

STOP THAT STUPID ASS BUFFY MOVIE!!!

Call your senator!

By: Giles(my real last name)

Giles(my real last name) — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:21:00 +0000

STOP THAT STUPID ASS BUFFY MOVIE!!!

Call your senator!

By: Giles(my real last n

Giles(my real last n — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:13:00 +0000

I agree with John. NOT THAT YOUR STUPID, but a male slayer would weaken the whole concept of the show. Plus guys have been traditionally the vampire slayer anyway. Just wouldn't be as interesting.

By: Giles(my real last name)

Giles(my real last name) — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:13:00 +0000

I agree with John. NOT THAT YOUR STUPID, but a male slayer would weaken the whole concept of the show. Plus guys have been traditionally the vampire slayer anyway. Just wouldn’t be as interesting.

By: D'C'A&#039

D'C'A&#039 — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:01:00 +0000

This is exactly what I've said; brining the Buffyverse back to tV doesn't depend on any of the previous casts beign available

Joss is good at themes; one reason BtVS suffered after S-3 was that these specific characters were associated with the "high school as hell" metaphor and lost that dimension after.

There's no reason why a different Slayer with different friends and problems couldn't be a good show. Or a surviving Watcher and any Slayers he's able to find. Or a Willow/Tara/Amy style solitary witch, or coven, set *in* the B'verse. Or a Beauty and the Beast style show with CLem and a normal human woman. Or a Highway to Heaven style with ghosts of characters who died on the show righting wrongs. Or a werewolf/panther/tiger/etc. who has full human intelligence as a beast. Or (with clsoe to 1 million of them on earth) maybe there's a 3rd or 4th vampire witha soul. Or a story centering on a romance betweena human and an attractive demon type.

Two big problems. Fox seems leery about too much licesnign out of the Buffyverse; see ripper. Second, Joss has learned from experience he can't juggle 3 network shows or the equivalent without ruining his ehalth and relationships and the quality of the shows; he's said so himself. And he seems incapable of really trusting showrunners. So we'll have to wait for his palte to be clearer.

By: D'C'A'

D'C'A' — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:01:00 +0000

This is exactly what I’ve said; brining the Buffyverse back to tV doesn’t depend on any of the previous casts beign available
Joss is good at themes; one reason BtVS suffered after S-3 was that these specific characters were associated with the “high school as hell” metaphor and lost that dimension after.
There’s no reason why a different Slayer with different friends and problems couldn’t be a good show. Or a surviving Watcher and any Slayers he’s able to find. Or a Willow/Tara/Amy style solitary witch, or coven, set *in* the B’verse. Or a Beauty and the Beast style show with CLem and a normal human woman. Or a Highway to Heaven style with ghosts of characters who died on the show righting wrongs. Or a werewolf/panther/tiger/etc. who has full human intelligence as a beast. Or (with clsoe to 1 million of them on earth) maybe there’s a 3rd or 4th vampire witha soul. Or a story centering on a romance betweena human and an attractive demon type.
Two big problems. Fox seems leery about too much licesnign out of the Buffyverse; see ripper. Second, Joss has learned from experience he can’t juggle 3 network shows or the equivalent without ruining his ehalth and relationships and the quality of the shows; he’s said so himself. And he seems incapable of really trusting showrunners. So we’ll have to wait for his palte to be clearer.

By: delia

delia — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:15:00 +0000

Leave Buffy alone! Let Joss do what he thinks will be special and unique… I fell in love with the characters and storytelling, not the basic plot of the show… If there is a spinoff movie with Giles or Spike great! But don't try and push something based on the basic plot or myths, that's not what made it great in the first place!

By: delia

delia — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:15:00 +0000

Leave Buffy alone! Let Joss do what he thinks will be special and unique… I fell in love with the characters and storytelling, not the basic plot of the show… If there is a spinoff movie with Giles or Spike great! But don’t try and push something based on the basic plot or myths, that’s not what made it great in the first place!

By: jkruofa

jkruofa — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:02:00 +0000

You guys need to read the comics.

By: jkruofa

jkruofa — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:02:00 +0000

You guys need to read the comics.

By: Jemma

Jemma — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:51:00 +0000

I watch the last season, my point wasn't about multiple slayers but the suggestion that the slayer could be male, hence the 'GIRL' being capslocked, not the 'one'. A show for various slayers is a damn fine idea, but the slayers wouldn't be male or from other species. The montage in the final episode of all the slayers being called didn't show a single guy, or supernatural critter, did it? So I'll thank you to think a little more carefully before replying to people, or you may find that you're the one coming off as stupid ;)

By: Jemma

Jemma — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:51:00 +0000

I watch the last season, my point wasn’t about multiple slayers but the suggestion that the slayer could be male, hence the ‘GIRL’ being capslocked, not the ‘one’. A show for various slayers is a damn fine idea, but the slayers wouldn’t be male or from other species. The montage in the final episode of all the slayers being called didn’t show a single guy, or supernatural critter, did it? So I’ll thank you to think a little more carefully before replying to people, or you may find that you’re the one coming off as stupid ;)

By: Juan

Juan — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:44:00 +0000

“Here in America, we don’t have any kind of “legacy” programming.” As people have mentioned there's Star Trek Dr. Who has only 15 days, 14 hours and 36 minutes of television while Star Trek has 22 days, 19 hours and 3 minutes (if you watched back-to-back).

By: elainecleo

elainecleo — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:13:00 +0000

I loved the ending of Angel. Yes most died, but Angel, Spike and Illyria survived and saved the world..again. I would love to see something with Spike and Illyria together, they were both excellent and Spike was the reason I watched the last 4 seasons of Buffy.

By: elainecleo

elainecleo — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:13:00 +0000

By: Bet

Bet — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:35:00 +0000

I think it's a horrible idea. I wouldn't like to see a Buffy-related show without Buffy. Do you remember how Angel ended? It was horrible. And a show about Xander or Giles…They would die at the end of the show.

By: Bet

Bet — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:35:00 +0000

I think it’s a horrible idea. I wouldn’t like to see a Buffy-related show without Buffy. Do you remember how Angel ended? It was horrible. And a show about Xander or Giles…They would die at the end of the show.

By: JA

JA — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:23:00 +0000

(UK bloke here) Doctor Who is (aside from being very flukey) a family show on the country's primary channel, as opposed to a more adult show on a lesser watched network. It's survived at least in part because of the effect had on the kids watching it, growing up and wanting to keep it for their own kids.

I can't see the Buffyverse becoming as large or as long lasting. Not that that wouldn't be awesome, I just doubt its possibility. Besides, you do have Star Trek which I always thought would outlive Doctor Who. After all, once people have gotten tired of one man's adventures and kill him off proper, Star Trek can still come back with a new team and ship exploring an infinite universe. (Don't get me wrong, I ADORE Doctor Who as much as I adore Joss himself, but I perceive it to be distinctly finite.)

Would Star Wars count as another legacy? If it isn't now it certainly has the same potential.

Could Buffy have a full-blooded franchise? If they ever get Ripper going that could be the start. Something like that over here coupled with a show in America (Willow? Xander? A Potential, indeed?) could be a kick-start to the franchise. In any case, I'm just grateful we have more Dollhouse, so I shall soak up whatever Whedony goodness I can.

By: JA

JA — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:23:00 +0000

(UK bloke here) Doctor Who is (aside from being very flukey) a family show on the country’s primary channel, as opposed to a more adult show on a lesser watched network. It’s survived at least in part because of the effect had on the kids watching it, growing up and wanting to keep it for their own kids.

I can’t see the Buffyverse becoming as large or as long lasting. Not that that wouldn’t be awesome, I just doubt its possibility. Besides, you do have Star Trek which I always thought would outlive Doctor Who. After all, once people have gotten tired of one man’s adventures and kill him off proper, Star Trek can still come back with a new team and ship exploring an infinite universe. (Don’t get me wrong, I ADORE Doctor Who as much as I adore Joss himself, but I perceive it to be distinctly finite.)

Would Star Wars count as another legacy? If it isn’t now it certainly has the same potential.

Could Buffy have a full-blooded franchise? If they ever get Ripper going that could be the start. Something like that over here coupled with a show in America (Willow? Xander? A Potential, indeed?) could be a kick-start to the franchise. In any case, I’m just grateful we have more Dollhouse, so I shall soak up whatever Whedony goodness I can.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:54:00 +0000

"Here in America, we don’t have any kind of “legacy” programming."

Star Trek?

By: Andrew

Andrew — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:54:00 +0000

“Here in America, we don’t have any kind of “legacy” programming.”

Star Trek?

By: john

john — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:53:00 +0000

oh, and I for one LOVE this idea.

By: john

john — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:53:00 +0000

oh, and I for one LOVE this idea.

By: john

john — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:52:00 +0000

Jemma, did you watch Buffy? b/c you make me believe that you missed the last season. Please, re-read the letter. You just made yourself sound really stupid.